Abraham Peace Accord.

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    I'm sure it pisses off a lot of ppl here... just think all the work the BDS put into countries in Europe and America and now major Arab countries are about to trade with Israel, they won't admit it but its a fatal blow....
     
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    I don't know how "historic" that deal was, but there is some merit to the idea that Obama had something to do with this. The Iran deal ticked off just about every nation in the Middle East because they were not consulted in any way. They looked at it as very troubling.

    Iran is seen as the primary destabilizing threat in the region even by other areas nations. Obama's poor judgement on the Iran deal teed it up for Trump to help broker this agreement.
     
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    Inshalllah a fatal blow for the BDS bastards.
     
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    Live from the White house ✌
    Peace for Peace.
    A great day.. Historic day.
    Bravo :applause::applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Everything with Trump is huge, he even bragged he had a big penis.

    Nice. But, without an agreement between Israel and Palestine, all it is is 'nice'. UAE, Bahrain, and Israel are all Allies of the US and have a great incentive in Trump's continued presidency.


    Let's see if Trump can get Israel and Palestine sign an agreement,

    No way.
     
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    And our idiot Speaker of the House chimes in

    Pelosi Calls Trump-Brokered Mideast Peace Deals "A Distraction"
    During a CNN interview on Friday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi derisively called the peace agreements the Trump administration has sponsored this month between Israel and two Arab states, Bahrain and the UAE, "a distraction" from the ongoing coronavirus crisis.

    Asked if the president deserves any credit for helping sponsor the deals, Pelosi said, "Well, hopefully, they won't--" before continuing: "Hopefully they're beneficial to the region."

    "Good for him for having a distraction on a day when the numbers of people who are affected and the numbers of people who are dying from this virus only increases," Pelosi said.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...okered_mideast_peace_deals_a_distraction.html

    The pettiness of this woman never ceases to amaze. She can't even bring herself to say this a great day for Middle East peace.
     
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    Amazing that that is what comes into your head and out your mouth on such an historic development and occasion.

    You guys just can't stand it can you.
     
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    One of these days you'll do something amazing like presenting a merit worthy counter argument.
     
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    Nothing SHORT OF Garbage Right wing Trumpoian Propaganda. UAE and Bahrain ? So the Jewish People and THEIR COUNTRY agree to work with Countries very small and hundreds of miles away while every Israeli Border Country calls it BETRAYAL... Just LIKE Trump, Kushner is falling in place with Lie after Lie, propaganda pushed by the Jewish state to further the Billionaire agenda.
    Kushner on PBS now spewing garbage. That is all that this ADMIN. does, one lie after another...

    But "don't worry Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi, I got you back says Trump... Ignore the West as if they are not in the country.
    Kushner Cherry picking data on the Virus which Trump has BLOWN up, destroying lives and killing people. Just sad to watch people follow because they watch FOX news, spew hate and lies.
     
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    Bluesguy been spewing Trump and RIGHT wing garbage for years. Always supporting the liars.... They must be paid because they cant be TRUE AMERICANS... Even on climate change, deny, deny, deny and listen to the oil companies because they funnel Trillions into the TRUMP REGIME.
    SOmebody needs to END these people.
     
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    UAE , Bahrain, and Israel are NOT at war with each other, so it cannot be called a 'peace agreement'.

    What is actually is is Trump scouring the landscape for low hanging fruit which he can use to hype for his campaign.

    But, insofar as 'peace' what this agreement does is further exacerbate tensions between Israel and Palestine, where the real need for peace agreements exist, but fat chance of that with Netanyahu in office, who has vowed that no way are Palestinians going to have their own state as long as he is Prime Minister of Israel
     
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    The answer is simple - The so called Palestinians do not want peace.
     
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    :roflol:
     
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    UAE & Bahrain did not have formal relations with Israel .. No flights, No tourism, No diplomats .. Nada.
    On the other hand - Jordan is Palestine.
    Israel is at peace with Jordan.
    What's your point ?
     
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    And maybe you will have something better than discussing penis size. So was it mushroom shaped?
     
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    Well pointed out. Trump's initiative (therefore) is no shattering, break-through in instigating any peace in the region. It's all good friends slapping one another on the back and depositing another gazillion dollars in the bank. "Peace"? I know who's the joker but who's got the wool over his eyes?
     
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    It's funny how the Pro Islamo Jihado Arabo propoganda is against Peace .. Any kind of Peace :handshake:
     
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    It's funny how the Pro Zionisti Jehudini Terroristi Nazisiti Fascisti Israeli propaganda is against any kind of Peace. :machinegun:
     
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    They have no incentive to do so.

    These announcements align the US with the Sunni states and Israel.

    Putin an Erdogen have obviously worked out an understanding, and the Turks are consolidating their victory over the Kurds in the face of the US retreat from the Levant. They are also stepping up their operations in the Mediterranian.

    With the US now openly siding with the Sunni states, Iran sees nothing but threats. And freed of any constraint they may have felt from the nuclear deal which Trump abrogated, they have no reason NOT to develop their nuclear weapons.
     
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    Bravo to the Arab leaders for making peace with Israel :applause::applause::applause:

    The Palestinians must understand that they are not the center of the world, their leaders just want to keep the people poor and suck our Europian donations.
     
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    I'll start with the end of your post. Iran never felt any constraints from the nuclear deal, because it was never binding, not for Iran, not for the US. It was more a "gentleman's agreement", not international law. Besides, Iran already signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, which is a legally binding document generating international law, and didn't respect it, so why would anyone expect the same regime to respect a non-binding agreement is a mystery to me.

    The Sunni Arab states, threatened by both Turkey and Iran, need strong, reliable allies. The US can't possibly be allied with Iran, whose regime calls for America's demise, nor with Turkey, whose ruling party's strategy stems from the Muslim Brotherhood's "soft takeover to destroy democracies from within" ideology.

    I believe Trump's betrayal of the Kurds is due in large part to Arab influence, seeing how the Turks are harassing their Iranian allied archenemy Assad, making it difficult for his regime to strengthen its hold on the country. Arab countries have serious reasons to fear the Syrian regime.

    Putin and Erdogan are enemies, any understanding they may have worked out wouldn't be more than a temporary truce. Both sides have hegemonic ambitions in the region.
     
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    Some on the left will give him some credit.... but the majority won't until the election is over.

    I have an ancient Islamic prediction that he and some of his staff may be able to use effectively as a follow through to this that could also assist in beginning an economic boom inthe Middle East..... at the same time that attention is drawn away from that silly Carbon Tax that would likely do NOTHING to combat the threat of rising ocean levels.


    This fits with Isaiah chapter thirty five and with an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate put forward by a New Mexico biologist and coach.


    With seven hundred and ten trillion dollars in the worldwide Derivatives markets as of 2014.... and with two hundred and ten TRILLION in the USA Derivatives markets.... this shift in attempting to stabilize the climate in a way that would actually address the threat of rising ocean levels...... and produce food........ and create jobs in areas of the world with lots of deserts........ and divert labour out of terrorist organizations into agriculture......... and.......




    Bankrolling the 10 Breakthrough Technologies: Megascale Desalination
    The world’s biggest desalination plant, named one of MIT Technology Review’s breakthroughs of 2015, is the result of government funding of both large-scale infrastructure and the underlying innovations.


     
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    Indubitably.
     
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    Palestinians have asked for NOTHING that our founders didn't ask for.

    And, Israel has used US military and political cover to do NOTHING but steal their homes and drive them away from arable land.

    During the Bush years of attempting to promote netogiations, Israell demanded that they have the "right" to continue ethnic cleansing operations throughout any netogiations!!

    This deal does not include ANY new peace. And, it does not address any of the several real problems in the ME.

    Obviously, it's great to see people get along. But, projecting this as a significant improvement in the ME is seriously difficult to support.

    For example, it does NOTHING to deter Iran's nuclear direction. If anything, it creates slightly greater justification for claim of needing nuclear deterrence.

    After all, it provides NO approach to resolving issues with Iran - like Obama's deal which included European nations and Russia absolutely did do.
     
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