Portland shooting leaves 1 dead as pro-Trump group clashes with BLM

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  1. AmericanNationalist

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    No, the National Defense Authorization act. It gets passed every year and it's the biggest source of pork in Washington.

    Yes, I want the President regardless of party to have line item veto. It would be a tremendous asset to our country.
     
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    https://news.yahoo.com/part-trump-border-wall-risk-135746197.html

    So the ONLY 3 new miles of NEW wall are in danger of COLLAPSING and the funds raised for the wall are a SCAM?

    Why am I NOT in the least bit surprised?
     
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    It's not what it is. You've failed to provide quotes about Nancy dividing the country. And if she is doing as you say, which she is not, then tRUMP is proving to be more incompetent that Nancy controls the country and he's useless to do anything about it.
     
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    I doubt it would be an asset. We don't have a king or a dictatorship. The purse strings belong to congress per constitution. I think it's best that way. We don't need 1 person spending how they wish.
    The gutless congress has yielded enough power to the office of president already.
     
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    To them, that's the good.
     
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    Where is she saying she is going to allow cities to burn, now, or after the election?

    Provide the link, please.
     
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    If the riots won’t stop then what’s her purpose? By supporting BLM the admitted Marxist organization that believes in destroying the nuclear family formed from LIES, based on LIES, whos members burn and loot by the 10s of 1000s all across the country....if she can’t condemn them then she agrees with them.
     
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    Everything I have said is the objective truth regardless if you choose to believe it or not. The reality is Trump miss done a great job despite democrats like Nancy being determined to divide America with false narratives.

    is what it is
     
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    The riots are happening under tRUMP leadership. She is nothing but a 2nd tier candidate at this point.

    Prove what you think she believes. I asked you once already to do that and you didn't. I don't know her purpose, you claim to. But provide no evidence.
    The interview you responded to she gave, was on protests. Riots were never brought up.

    So, post all these lies you are claiming.

    I don't expect you to provide any thing you claim.
     
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    Then provide quotes. Objective truth means everyone has to believe it because there's no alternative to the truth.

    But you won't provide 1 single quote to back up your claim. Not that you ever do. But, go ahead, back up your claim. If you can.

    tRUMPisms are lies.
     
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    Thank you! I was saying the same yesterday. Shooting paintballs and pepper spray may not be bullets, but it is violence, and it’s hard to imagine how Trump can consider that a peaceful protest.
     
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    Its not about being a king or dictator. As you pointed out, as the law stands now the President has to sigh and live with the budget. But if we had line item veto, the President does get a say, and that say would be so powerful they won't even add the pork anymore. Its symbolic existence alone might stop bipartisan wasted spending.
     
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    The president doesn't run the country. Per the intent of the founders and the constitution.
    It's suppose to be equal forms of gov't. Of We The People.

    The congress has yielded too much power to the pres already.
     
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    The founders also gave us permission to abolish and reform the government to assure domestic tranquillity. Focusing on the reform part, democracy isn't working and you know I made these remarks pre-Trump on this Internet forum.
     
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    Incorrect, you fundamentally do not understand what objective truths are. Objective truths don’t require everyone to agree, they simply remain true regardless if people disagree or not. You can disagree with the molecular weight of a molecule, however it has a weight that IS regardless if you believe it or not.

    it’s not my job to make you be informed, it’s yours to be informed. The objective truth is that democrat leadership is dividing America with false narratives and hate. This is dems America.
     
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    Incorrect.
    Definition of objective
    (Entry 1 of 2)

    1a: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations

    If one doesn't even know the definition of a word, one can't understand the basics.

    If you had any point to make at all, you'd actually prove your claim and provide proof of your claim. Instead you have to make your posts about the other posters. A clear sign one has no point or validity to a claim.

    Your are welcome for yet another lesson.

    Today's America it tRUMPs America. Division is what tRUMP seeks and that is what we have. Welcome to tRUMPs America.
     
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    Ya know what I find Ironic is that this Antifa supporting Crack addict LOSER! Michael Reinoehl who got a big ol BLM Fist tattoo'd on the side of his neck and claimed he killed Aaron Danielson in defense of one of his Black friends and for all his devotion to the BLM cause that ended in his Death in Lacey Wa, Hardly a PEEP! if any from Black Lives Matter denouncing his Death at the hands of Police. No RIOTS, NO PROTESTS, NO BURNING BUILDINGS, NO LOOTING TARGET STORES, NO NOTHING! and he's basically going to end up nothing more then a Forgotten Creep who sacrificed his life for a Cause that couldn't give One Shits about him, because he was the wrong color. AWESOME! :roflol:
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    I suggest you redo your research as this is incorrect. In philosophy, objectivity is the concept of truth independent from individual subjectivity. So once again, I humbly suggest you learn to do better research to avoid confusion in the future.

    My claim is objectively true regardless of how you choose to “feel” about it. It is your job to be informed, not my job to make you informed.

    the division we have was caused by dem leaders and thier false narratives. This is dem America
     
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    LOL. Philosophy is completely subjective.
     
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    No it's not. In fact, your claim is self-refuting. You claim that philosophy is subjective as a matter of fact. Fact is not subjective. Ergo your post is self-refuting.
     
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    The fact you and I can't agree on if it's subjective or objective, proves it's not objective. There's no personal bias in objective facts.
    Philosophy is not a fact.


    Philosophy, (from Greek, by way of Latin, philosophia, “love of wisdom”) the rational, abstract, and methodical consideration of reality as a whole or of fundamental dimensions of human existence and experience. Philosophical inquiry is a central element in the intellectual history of many civilizations.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/philosophy

    Notice?? No mention of the word OBJECTIVE in the definition of Philosophy. In fact, the word ABSTRACT is used. You can look that word up yourself.
     
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    Hey I just proved you wrong on the idea of objective truth.
     
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    This also proves your fallacy. You're claiming, objectively, that our disagreement is subjective. That's a logical contradiction. <COMMENTS EDITED>

    Is that a fact, or merely your subjective opinion?

    <COMMENTS EDITED>
     
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    Incorrect, again objectivity doesn’t require we all agree. You can disagree with the idea that 2 plus 2 equals 4, that doesn’t mean there isn’t an objective truth beyond your subjective opinion of 2 plus 2 equaling 4. 2 plus 2 equals four is an objective truth regardless if you agree with it or not. We don’t need you to agree with that before calling it objectively true lmao. You fundamentally have a misunderstanding of objectivity.

    objectivity is simply the reality that there is a truth to everything that remains true outside of people’s subjective opinion. I suggest you do more research on the topic to prevent future misunderstandings.
     
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    I am not claiming objectively, I am claiming subjectively. Did you not read my saying you and I can't agree? That is not an objective fact if we can't agree because our biases interfere.

    Since you need to enhance your point with ad hom attacks is further proof you know nothing about what you post.
     
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