Is herd immunity ahead of schedule?

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  1. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You may hate how America is organized, but in terms of health, we have 50 separate state heads who shoulder the brunt of responsibility for their people. State authority over peoples' health is more broad than federal authority. That's not an excuse. It's a fact.
     
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    You never know where those people live.
     
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    Stay safe. Hide under your bed.
     
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    That assumes that you believe all the numbers and the definition of success.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't remember him stating it that way. Heard him say that was a possibility. I know scientists thought it might be a possibility. We ALL know for a fact, if Trump does anything right you will find a way to make it seem wrong.
     
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    No, I'm not a pollster from Trump. You have me confused with some other poster.

    Coronavirus is not a new one. It's been around so long that a handful of them have been patented by men like Bill Gates.

    Herd immunity will arrive at some point, just as it has for thousands of years.

    You might have drunk 1 cup too many of Vino Fauci. ;)
     
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    That assumes conspiwacy theowies...
     
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    Some say the earth is flat. Some say we have to sacrifice millions in the US and 10s of millions globally. I showed you many many sources that disagree with this one article but you persist in trying to make others believe.
     
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    Hey, if it went down in the summer, what will happen in the fall and winter during flu season? You won't hear Trump talking about that, will you? Why? Because Trump is allergic to reality and always paints a rose-colored picture, so his magic economy doesn't get hurt further, sinking his re-election success.

    Me, I'd rather have a president who is frank with the American people, instead of the stu9id "You'll get tired of so much winning" narrative.
     
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    Too bad Democrats didn't nominate "Frank", but got stuck with Lyin' Joe. Preferring to be consistently lied to by a man who has been groomed for half a century to lie to the people with a smile on his establishment-elite face over a man who is so frank and transparent that he blurts out whatever he is thinking is the 2020 choice.

    Like your lies with whipped cream, syrup and a cherry on top? Vote Joe 2020!
     
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    I don't care what people believe. I learned decades ago that many believe what they are told by authority figures, and there is nothing at all that I can do about it.

    Those with curious and open minds will always find their own way. Those who prefer to be led by authorities will be led, no matter the facts involved.
     
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    Good points.

    No whipped cream. Yang lost. :)
     
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    Herd immunity without a vaccine is a death sentence for millions
     
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    Yes, herd immunity is here, and has been for some time now. It's largely due to a combination of antibodies and T-cells. Most people acquired broad immunity to coronaviruses over the normal course of their lives. It's almost as if immune systems exist for a reason.

    But don't expect the COVID hysterics to admit this. They want to keep everyone as frightened and as miserable as possible so they can blame it all on Trump, which is their only chance to install their senile figurehead, Joe Biden, into the White House.
     
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    Right. And that’s why we have 50-100 thousand infections a day and 500-1,000 deaths a day
     
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    Herd immunity doesn't mean zero infections and zero deaths. It just means the virus is contained to a relatively small percentage of the population, which it is.
     
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    The per cent age for herd immunity is like 70%
    Go away
     
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    First of all, prove it.

    Secondly, when you account for antibodies AND T-cell immunity, we're very likely already at 70%.

    Thirdly, make me.
     
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    No matter how old or weak I may become, I can absolutely guarantee you that I will never use my own situation as a justification for stomping on the rights of others.
     
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    Lockdowns, social distancing, contact tracing, masks, etc., aren't based on science though, they're based on hysteria and charlatanry.
     
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    Swedes are more mobile and social now than they were during the peak of their death rates, so there goes that hypothesis.

    Fact is, Sweden has achieved herd immunity. The evidence proves it.

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    Face it, lockdowns were a needless disaster based on pseudoscience and hysteria.
     
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    Whether COVID is more or less dangerous than the flu doesn't really matter, since neither pose a serious threat to the general populace.

    The amount of risk that the average person faces post-COVID is virtually identical to the amount of risk they faced pre-COVID.

    We're talking tiny fractions of a percentage point here.
     
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    Sure. Next time you go into the hospital for an operation, you tell the doctors that they don't need to wear masks cause you have an Internet Degree in Science and you know that virus and germs can't be spread through expelled mucus ...
     

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