Isn't it time you yanks grew up over your gun death epidemic?

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  1. CCitizen

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    The same so-called "good will of the majority" that was responsible for mental health institutions being closed and insisting the mentally ill be treated like criminals because it is cheaper than providing adequate care to them? The same so-called "good will of the majority" that insists the bottom line, that being their own money, is worth more to them than your life, or an number of lives of those in need of assistance?
     
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    Sadly, in USA, the Majority has little Good Will.
     
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    Then the appeals on the part of yourself and others are falling on metaphorical deaf ears, and ultimately serving no purpose in being voiced. The only logical course of action to engage in, would be to recognize the futility of such attempts and move on. Otherwise one is doing nothing more than simply wasting their own time on a lost cause.
     
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    Nobody cares what you think, which is lucky for you since you can't define these terms.

    You may try, however ...
     
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    I’m always astonished how concerned people who don’t live in America are about internal American politics. I wonder what the REAL motivation is.

    I spent most of my life in the US and I don’t care that much.

    Yes, suicides make up most firearms deaths in the US but are conflated into the data anyway.

    Yes, most firearms deaths are between the criminal element.

    Still mass shootings make up most of the media attention even though the numbers of these deaths are vanishingly small.

    One might also note the extremely high rate of gun ownership in the Middle East which includes automatic weapons and the correspondingly low rate of gun homicides.

    Guns themselves are not the issue.
     
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    For the month on June NICS checks were up 135.7% over June of last year!!

    Background checks for 2020 has exceeded 10 million!

    Yay!
     
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    People in the Middle East have regular access to firearms and even assault rifles. Yet they have very few gun homicides and virtually no background checks. The issue is much larger than gun ownership and most gun deaths in the US are the result of suicides, and most of the rest are between members of the criminal element shooting each other.
     
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    Seasonal flu happens every year as well and kills more people than guns do.
     
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    So instead of banning Guns, you should fund better support for mental health? Some sort of universal single payer mental health care system? Or would you oppose such public funding?
     
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    Reasoned people oppose a system where the state forces people to provide goods and services to others w/o compensation,.
     
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    Ok, so it is better to just accept all these deaths by Gun? Ok. You do it your way. I'll happily live elsewhere.
     
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    Freedom is inherently dangerous; the more free you are, the more danger you face.
    And we're happy that you do.
     
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    Absolutely.
    Eternal vigilance.
     
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    In case you have not noticed, all the rioting and looting have pretty much put gun control on the back of the back burner.
     
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    False, gun sale are through the roof, people see the rioters moving into neighborhoods and the cops doing nothing and they are arming up to protect themselves.
     
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    Perhaps you should learn what the phrase "back burner" means
     
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    My error.
     
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    I think that what @Chrizton meant was that currently gun control is not being so heavily hyped by those who work so hard to eviscerate the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    All GOOD leftists are supposed to be against guns and perhaps they are . . . right up until violent ANTIFA/BLM enters their neighborhood with Molotov Cocktails and with a Dem Party mayor having already ordered the city police to stand down. Then suddenly all sorts of leftists rush out to purchase weaponry. It's . . . it's like . . . magic.
     
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    Correct, I misread the reply.
     
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