Trump's military put into perspective

I did serve. He did not use the term you expected and you attacked for its omission.

You are my first-ever to be put on Ignore. Stolen Valor indeed.

 

Bye bye

 

I’m going to be honest with you I’m typically not a mean person. I definitely have my moments that why I have to own my own business because I have a hard time being told no.

I apologize for how I approached you.

 

Just can't give it up, can you? The 10-day veteran recruit role just doesn't cut it.
You seem to believe that what you think you know is the sum total of what was as well as what is. Kind of like a thimble of sea water represents the entire ocean or something.
And it wasn't an "admissions" test, it was a qualification test. It was also open to all, not just those who had degrees. Those who excelled would be offered admission to OCS as I was. They pushed it in several interviews; I turned it down. I wasn't interested in a military career, just if fulfilling my obligation. I left as an enlisted rank, not a commissioned one.

You can't go back to the world that existed before you were born, any more than you can foresee the future. But you can learn from those who have already traveled the road to where you are going. I realize that many think they are smart enough they don't need to do that, which is why so many embarrass themselves along the way, and make so little progress... or none at all.
Take some advice this time. Be proud of what you are because of what you are- assuming that is respectable. If not, set about improving it until it is. Your opinion of you counts more that everyone else's opinion of you put together, as far as your personal satisfaction and peace with life if concerned. What I think of you doesn't matter- unless you make it matter; and if you think that way- other people will always own you, have the ability to push your buttons as well, and you will never be secure within yourself. Not a good way to live.

Generally I'm very respectful of our soldiers- but some manage to diminish that. Don't be one of those.

 

Appears that you are apologizing for apologizing. Just a simple apology works best.

 

you are confused. What you are talking about isn’t ocs as the only way to get into ocs since ocs started was to have a degree.

a qualifications test and open to all is ROTC. Two different things.... If you are truly a vet I ask that you don’t be so assertive with your statements as much of it is misplaced. I have no problem helping you in the right direction but don’t be aggressive and be wrong at the same time. I understand I don’t know everything but I take pride in the topics that I choose to argue because more often than not I will be right. I’m not saying there aren’t times where I can be proven wrong but it is rare as I will not argue unless I know I’m right.... just like I would never argue with a doctor about medicine as I know nothing about it

 

Assuming there was encouragement doesn’t excuse individual choice.
There was definite encouragement for Michael to kill the Trumper and for the LA shooter to shoot those two LEO’s.
There was encouragement for the my lai massacre but discounting individual choice is an excuse for extra judicial executions.

 

While you are right, the biggest difference is those other encouragements were not the President of the United States. The President can not be held to the same standards as others. Just because Biden or Pelosi or a regular citizen encourages bad behavior does not authorize or should give way to the president to exhibit the same. Don’t create scapegoats for a person elected to run this nation

 

I had hoped you had better reading comprehension. As stated, I do have a DD214. I also have the official document of honorable discharge- which lacks all the details of your blood type, your particular training, rifle range qualifications, etc. It's like a diploma, a wall document.

Since you deem yourself a military form historian, perhaps you need to do more research. My 214 form is older than 60 years- the date of execution on my personal form is 1960. It was a form put into service in 1955. Getting a little yellow with age, but I took a clip of the form ID at the bottom of mine for you. I'd bet the bottom of today's form looks just the same, however.



Still comical? Yes; and I am laughing at you. Sorry about that, but you continue to dig the hole deeper.

The wall version that you apparently have no knowledge of looks like this:



You can learn something everyday, at any age- provided your ego doesn't get in the way.

 

People say all kinds of crap. The decision to act upon it is and should always be on them.
As for leaders, if one doesn’t agree vote them out or recall them.

 

Decisions on what they think will score the most political points or please their big money backers- that is what our politicians are about.

Blue is now the party of Neocon's ... fat chance of ending these regime change wars under such philosophy.
Further - they are now the anti Environment party - not because of any great policy initiatives on the Red side - but because the Blue policy is so misguided.

When you find yourself demonizing Michael Moore as being too far to the right - You just might be a left wing extremist.

 

I appreciate what you’re trying to do but the diploma as you call it I just researched it. I didn’t know it existed but that is not DD214, it’s form DD256... you used 2 different forms. But the DD256 is a special request, that’s not standard issue. So to use that as your go to for discharge is the wrong approach. I would suggest you utilize the DD214 as proof. Many can falsify a DD256 more easier than a DD214

 

And of course, you know everything about this, including my lack of a DD214 and a wall discharge copy. You must be so highly respected by your peers; (or you may think of them as those in need of your wisdom) and sought out for sage advice everyday. Congratulations on your brilliance.

"Don't be so assertive"? As in, do not challenge your assumptions about where I have been and you have not.... bow to your superior intellect? It keeps getting funnier. Sad, but funnier.

I'm beginning to wonder if you actually do have military service. Now be a good soldier- go away, live to fight another day on another forum. You have lost tract of the thread purpose... or perhaps, shed some perspective of the mindset of those who make up military today. I hope not.

And the 256 was received automatically in my day. Probably have to pay for it now. But, you wouldn't know that either.

 

It looks exactly like my DD214 except my form is dated 1 Nov 1972.

 

yes because google pics can do that

 

I’m sorry I found your discharge on google brother. It was a nice try though. I can no longer talk to you. I can not speak to someone who used google pics to argue with me

 

I know losing and being proven wrong in an argument constantly is a tough pill to swallow. I will pray that you learn the knowledge you seek

 

I was right about your not actually having military experience, wasn't I?
You fail to recognize a legit DD214.. but know all about them.
The world seems to be filled with fakes these days, ranting about things they only know about from hearsay. Expertise by proxy.
It would be a good choice to go away.

 

Well I actually posted my service card that has my name and dod ID # unlike you who posted a saved image from google. Don’t worry your secret is safe with me

 

Are you claiming I am lying about being a retired Air Force major?

 

The 256 image was from google. I specifically said the document would "look like this".

The 214 was the bottom section of my discharge. It's got the signature and rank of the officer completing it- and is no google document.
I have no doubt you know that, just can't step up to being wrong. Generally- people in the military are rarely so disrespectful to others, military or not. Thus... I don't think you are legit at all.
Besides- you were done, but apparently not until you can tell yourself you won something. You haven't. Respect is earned, not won by badgering people.

 

I'd say so too.

 

Are you seriously making the claim that all 1.3 million Americans in the active duty military responded to the poll in question?

Get real.

 

Just listen to Rogans recent podcast with Tim Kennedy. If you want to know the difference between presidents who respect the military compared to Obama it’s all you need to know.