Nobody is talking healthcare—and it would elect Biden

The solution is easy enough. Dismantle the for profit healthcare system in place now, alternatives will poke their heads out as a result.

 

The 40%+ that don't pay taxes. I have excellent health care through my employer. Oh that's right it means I have to work to get it. My bad.

 

It will become just like the DMV

 

Your side lost ALL credibility talking about free stuff.

 

Biden wants to add a public option. We'll be able to keep our employer plans.

 

For any number of reasons, reasoned, thinking people don't support universal health care, not the least of which is they recognize how inherently bad of an idea it is to have to get approval - and thus, funding - from the state before you can exercise your rights.
Health care -is - a right, right?

Thus, Biden pushing his universal health care for all idea is a loser.

 

Absent profit motive, there's little to no reason for anyone to take the place of the companies you seek to destroy.

 

What do you call Government run health care?

 

In theory. In reality, Biden's proposals keep changing and Medicare For All is unpopular even in the DNC but has a strong faction that would be alienated by his position. In addition, a lot of people are not going to be won over when they start talking about free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Anti-immigration sentiments are one of the issues where Trump does better with independents. You are advocating for a gaffe prone old man to walk through a political minefield.

 

A gigantic increase in the ability of the state to dictate what you do, and don't do.

 

There are two separate but not equal systems. If your in Medicaid (MediCal in Calif), you have to be seen specific doctors and facilities. Most likely not the ones you'd like go to. I think that's what rubs them the wrong way. Why should WE get excellent service quickly when we work for our health insurance and they have to wait because they don't work for theirs but want the same service. Universal Health Care gives crappier health care to folks that work hard for better care now, and more expedient care for those that don't or won't work for theirs. It's typical class envy, they want what you have without working for it.

Health care is available to the poor and folks with no insurance, you'll just have to stand in line to get it. I know, I went 7 years with no health insurance. I went to the County Health Center for regular stuff and the County Hospital if I needed anything else. Did I have to wait in line...yep. Did it suck...yep. But, I wasn't in a position for full time employment and company sponsored health care. Am I now...yep. I work hard for a Cadillac Health Plan at the age of 61 with disabilities. If I can still work after being run over by a 28,000 lb Armored Truck on the highway at 55 mph, for those that simply can't there is SSI Disability/Medicare. For those that won't, go wait in line at the County, you'll get care.

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

https://findahealthcenter.hrsa.gov/

Poor folks already have access to health care.

 

Trump expects to roll our a new healthcare plan before the election.

While we don't know what it will look like, we do know that Obamacare and dem policies deal with how to pay for insurance rather than why a hospital charges $15 for a fifteen cent Tylenol- and the reasons we can't afford the insurance.
That is why insurance is high, and that is what a good health care program would address. Bringing the costs of health care into line would bring the cost of insurance into line, and everybody would benefit.

 

I doubt that will change. The public option is available for people who lack other choices; employers who don't provide insurance, people who work for themselves, caught between jobs, or if anyone wants to try it. It's not free.

 

I'm assuming you are a licensed driver? Do you not carry liability insurance? Every state requires it, whether you like it or not.

 

So you are FOR Medicare for All? Glad to see you changed your mind.

 

If you want to exercise the state-granted privilege of driving on a state-owned road, sure.
How does that equate to a requirement to have health insurance as a condition to exercise your right to live as a citizen of the United States, within the borders of same?

 

Pretty much all of Europe.

 

The Health Center Networks I posted are nationwide and available to everyone, they charge on your ability to pay. If you have no income they don't charge at all. When I was using the system, I was working part-time. Based on my financial situation I had a $35 co-pay. No need to add more Government to the mix. People at all income levels have health care available to them.

 

You realize that is a division of HHS, and it is backed by Medicaid?

 

It would appear that Democrats received their new talking points.

True, Trump's record on healthcare is atrocious, only because he didn't live up to his promise to repeal Obamacare.

 

he has had 4 years

 

Where did you read that? Not in my post.
For starts, I'm for legislation that doesn't allow half the lawyers in the country to squeeze billions out of the medical system, which winds up as a huge part of your insurance premium.

I think your choice of insurance should be a private one, but I also think nobody should be irresponsible and dump the costs of their own decisions on others.
Medicare for all is a welfare program, not a healthcare program. Somebody always pays- and the ones who would pay less or none are always in favor of someone else carrying them.

 

cause like his Iran deal, he did not have anything better to offer

 

Nothing is better than Obamacare.

 

I like the real ObamaCare that included a public option