>>MOD WARNING<< Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead

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    But the thing is it is not a life life starts when the first breath is taken. But i do not believe anyone (unless lice threstening) should be able to have a abortion after it actually been developed in the womb like 20 weeks. I believe in a womans right to choose on that. I am strongly against any taxpayer money going to help with any cost of it tho.
    We have enough neglected kids in the states if the mother doesnt want dont put the unborn baby thru thst. Adoption isnt a dure thing then most kids thst go in and outbof foster homes become a nuissance to our society. You can say the woman should have used protection but there are no guarantees....
     
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    Life starts at wherever the beholder decides, many decide its at conception. This will be a fight that never has an end, abortion will be made illegal one day, and im sure eventtually after that it will be made legal again, and back and forth, for all time.

    Science can tell us when its heart beats first, when it first grows toes, its first breath, brain activity, when it has facial features, etc. But it can't tell us when life starts, thats a philosophical question thats based entirely on opinion.
     
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    The thing I dont get on this issue is whatever happens either way how does it effect you, AT ALL, personally, if you are Pro Birth, how does it impact your life at all if someone chooses to have an abortion. Will people who are in favor of banning or eliminating abortions have anything in their life changed. Its so ..amazingly absurd .. that people will vote just on this ONE singular issue when the impact it actually has on their day to day life is practically nothing and its more of a body autonomy issue and putting it under state or federal control
     
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    Honestly tho if a mass of tissue that there is zero chance of surviving outside the womb that is not life yet thats just matter. Same goes for soneone on life support if they cannot make the decision the next of kin can have the plugs pulled. But you hear zero complaints about that even tho that person could come out of the state they are in.
    What irks me the most tho is that its religious ppl. Not that i have anything against them but lets not sugar coat the attrocities that have been done in the name of religion.
     
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    Well me personally i am a male so it probably wont have any bearings on me personally considering im pretty much at the ahe where i cant get a girl pregnant. However i do feel it is a womans right to choose and not some old white guy who cant even get it up anymore making laws about what she can and cant do with her body. I think it is wrong. Of course like above i feel there shojld be limitations on abortions but i think it should fall on the woman what she wants to do.
    Me personally i dont vote on just that issue i vote more on who i think is dight for the job. I am indipendent might swing a lil more to the left than to the right but usually i vote who i feel is best for the job. Now this election thats sort of out the door because i will not give any vote to any republican until they get the infistation out of the wh that is plaquing their party.
     
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    That’s entirely opinion
     
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    Babies breathe inside the womb. Maybe not in the same way that leftist mouthbreathers waste perfectly good air, but their lungs are strengthened by amniotic fluid for the physical transformation to breathing air upon birth from the womb.

    https://www.healthline.com/health/p...he-in-the-womb#how-babies-breathe-in-the-womb
     
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    President Trump and Mitch McConnell would be fools if they do not promptly install a new Justice to the SC.

    The talk of fairness is absurd. Even though finally it was admitted there is zero evidence of collusion with Russia by Trump, this was pushed for over 3 years and the same accusation made. The impeachment trial was nothing but Democrats using raw power as a political partisan stunt. There is NO civility left in politics on the MSM, in the press, online or in Congress.

    All that remains is the question of POWER. Who has it? In what way? Pelosi and Democrats have total power in the House - and exercise it. The Republicans in the Senate have near total power - and exercise it. President Trump should use his Constitutional power and make and appointment. McConnell should use his Constitution power to bring it to a vote.

    All the political threats of political retaliation, etc, are pointless. This matter will not affect ONE vote in the election about Trump or anyone else one way or the other.

    The Republicans should install the replacement. This would prevent a possible total takeover by the NEW International Fascist Democrat Party to has replaced the previous American Liberal Democratic Party.
     
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    Perfectly stated. My guts tell me that we, the people, have to take a stand with each other, instead of against each other on what 537 elected people in DC tell us the wedge issues are.

    They love our divisiveness, I get along with everyone. Most people do. We need to treat all the fringe, far left & right, with the disdain they deserve.

    It's so very easy, in my mind. Too many like playing gotcha, and giggling at other people's expense.
     
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    I'm gonna have to save that to my favorites.
     
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    Someone doesn't appreciate federalism.
     
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    The ONLY reason RBG was still on the court is that President Obama was a really stupid President. If he was smart he would have convinced her to retire on his watch.
     
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    Archived for a future "told ya so". MAGA 2020!!! Thanks for playing.
     
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    Obama did more damage to the Democrat party than any other president from either party in the history of our country. Thanks Obama.
     
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    They'll never admit it.
     
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    They just can't admit it.
     
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    obama. and his vp joe biden
     
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    true joe and obama weren’t good leaders
     
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    It isn't that I don't understand it. I don't like the anti-democratic aspect of our current government. The two most destructive presidents of my lifetime entered office despite more people voting for their opponents. Supreme Court Justices chosen or rejected by a mere fraction of the country's population. I don't like governance by the minority.
     
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    Thats life support actual lungs dont start forming until at least week 24.
    So since you seem to be one of the pro only fetus ppl what is the difference between cutting that umbilical cord thus terminating the pregnancy or cutting the cord to someone on life support who was unable to give consent?
     
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    Wrong on so many levels

    You talk about the russian narritive you do know that the fussians i mean Republicans had control of all three branches so all those investigations were started by the russians i mean Republicans. Dems would have had no say in it. Face the FACTS and take a step back and take off the trump goggles the fact of the matter is that there was plenty of evidence that needed to be investigated to see if any of the allegations where true.
    As far as the impeachment trial trump was clearly guilty of what the dems where charhing him on of tjat there is zero doubt he tried to leverage ukraine to interfere in our election. I know for a FACT the russians i mean Republicans would have done the same if roles where reversed i mean they did try over clinton getting a bj in the wh and then spoke a half lie when questioned under oath. So quit acting like Republicans are any better both parties are garbage imho why i am independent voter. But right now with trump he is a threat to our nation and needs to go
    Say what you want about dems but right now the republicans look more fascist than the dems you claiming are.
     
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    We need to realize that THREE out of the nine SC Justices will have been picked by an Impeached President.
    At stake abortion rights and Obamacare to name the two most important issues.

    And right wing Republicans are salivating
     
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    actually four have Breyer was nominated by clinton
     
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    I think people should realise that this is actually a done deal, even if Trump loses and the DNC flip the house on November 3rd, they'd maintain their ability to appoint this new SCOTUS until at least the end of November giving them 70 days to get them in. Brett Kavanagh only took 59 days and if Trump picks a woman the DNC will be hard put to find an issue to obstruct them on.
     
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