We are about to see a check on honor and integrity.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Besides the more recent statements by Repubs senators about whether it is appropriate to consider a SC nominee so close to an election

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/where-key-gop-senators-stand-on-an-election-year-scotus-vacancy

    there are older ones. Repub senators, trying to justify the unjustifiable block of Merrick Garland, went to the floor of the Senate and made promises to be consistent and not move forward on a SC nominee under the current circumstance.
    This is one of the seminal moments in the country's history. The consequences of which will be far reaching in a legal and social way. I believe the power grab will prove to be too tempting for Repubs to ignore. This is their opportunity to ensure the minority will be represented in the SC by a 6-3 majority. Mostly due to the EC, an institution also giving the minority far too much power (as does the Senate) in deciding who is elected prez.
    The country needs to be prepared by setbacks in law regarding voting rights, abortion, environmental law, etc. The regression will be stunning. Likely resulting in civil unrest.
    This is Trump's parting blow to democracy and the concept of majority rule. Anyone hoping honor and integrity will save the day is going to be sorely disappointed. I hope I'm wrong.
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On a personal note, I should say it is an almost unbearable obscenity that a pig like Trump possibly has the opportunity to pick the replacement for someone of such intelligence, morality, humility, and professional courage.
     
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    I see liberal heads are predictably exploding today. Always making the same unfounded and ridiculous claims. Get your tiny violins and play a sad sad song because your about to have a seriously bad November.
     
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    Oh they're just getting warmed up, we'll soon see Ginsburg's death finally pushed them over the cliff. Just enjoy it.
     
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    So are you for the Biden Rule now? I get confused because dems thought it wasn’t even a rule a few years ago.

    On a personal note i find the left’s behavior unbearable.
     
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    Honor and integrity will have little to do with this. We are about to see no holds barred power politics. This is not a simple measure. All decisions made will have impact on the balance in the House, the Senate, and even the election of the President. Those that decide wrongly may have to pay a steep price.
     
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    Agreed, but I think the people are ready for honor from government, so that is likely the best choice.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think McTreason will be willing to sacrifice the fate of any Repub senator up for re-election for a chance to make the SC have a solid conservative majority for the next 20-30 years. The question is.........will those senators comply? Will any show a shred of courage to do what they know is right and refuse to confirm a Trump nominee unless he wins the election? We'll see.
     
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    Were those of you rubbing your hands together, gleefully, at the prospect of Trump appointing a justice prior to the election in Nov in support of McConnell back when he blocked Garland?
     
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    Democrats would do the exact same thing, given the chance.
     
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    That is spot on. It's like a loser like Lee Harvey Oswald killing a brilliant President like Kennedy. Trump didn't kill her (lay off the strawman!)... He just doesn't have the moral or intellectual stature to decide who could replace her.
     
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    According to Graham, Supreme Court vacancies shouldn’t be filled in an election year so it looks like Trump will have to wait till he’s re-elects to fill RBGs seat.
    I want you to use my words against me. If there's a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let's let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination," Graham said at the time
     
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    That's the point. Either the parties agree to wait for elections, as McConnell said in 2016, or they don't.
    Apparently, in 2020,they don't. That's going to bring retaliation from the Democrats. I think it much wiser to go with McConnell's original opinion. Trump already has the evangelical and right-wing 2nd Amendment folk. That Trump can't wait is a sign of panic. He's trying to squeeze as many votes out of this as he can, but it might backfire.
     
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    Lindsey Graham, as I thought, has already gone against his word by stating he will support Ginsburg's replacement ASAP. There was never any doubt he would.
     
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    You folks will tell yourselves anything to excuse this travesty.
     
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    So Dems were for the Biden Rule, then against the Biden Rule...McConnell gives you all what you want and does away with it...and now you are for it again?

    Geez...there is no honor among the left
     
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    In politics, honor is only for the other side to abide by. For the own side, everything is fair when given the opportunity to cement power.
     
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    It is Constitutional for Trump to nominate a replacement regardless of when it occurs during his term in office. Period...

    Did Barack Hussein Obama not nominate Garland?

    So once Trump nominates someone, his part of the process is over and lets the political grandstanding in the Senate begin.

    The more that the Dems complain and hold this up, the more likely it will become for even more Evangelicals to turn out for the 2020 election.
     
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    So Graham was for the Biden Rule then....it was the Rule....so what's position has it changed since then?
     
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    So he has changed his mind on the Biden Rule, like the DEms....what's your point?
     
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    Ginsberg was a rubber stamp for most of her time on the bench. She should have retired two years ago, so the current political fervor is not warranted.

    There is absolutely no, "Morality," with partial birth abortions. It is a savage act of violence.
     
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    So Graham was for the Biden Rule...has your position changed?
     
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    I don't think anyone should be surprised by what the Republicans are doing. I didn't expect anything less, nor should you.
     
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