Trump on Supreme Court nominee: 'It will be a woman'

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    Ah really, the GOP would NEVER attack anyone's character. I'm sure they never Swiftboated Kerry, that was all in the Dem's imagination.

    Those "he did it first" cries are really just rationalizations that stopped working in Kindergarten. If you want to claim the moral high ground, then do the right thing. Your own moral failure is not erased by someone else acting immorally too.
     
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    wait a minute....the left hated the longstanding Biden Rule.....so McConnell has gotten rid of it for you....you should be thanking him
     
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    those were the troops that served with Kerry
     
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    In other words: My character attacks good, your character attacks bad. More double standards.
     
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    well you said it was the GOP...I was just highlight that it was troops that served with Kerry....and they just told their story about how serving with him was like.

    Now if it highlighted he had bad character that's on him
     
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    Wrong again this is about the Republicans learning from the Democrats when "rules" don't suit you change the "rules".
     
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    No, I don't underestimate the extreme-partisan left or right. Both "ends" are entitled to their own perceptions and opinions. I see Coney-Barrett as a fair person, but she will certainly be painted as an "extreme hard-line conservative" by the left-wing party loyalists on this forum (and all the way up to Congressional Democrats). The right-wing extremes may defend her as a "staunch conservative" and actually reinforce the fears of the left. The division is what it is.

    Not everyone is an extremist. It may seem that way on a political internet forum far more than is the case in day-to-day real life. An extreme and unbending position statement evokes an equally unmovable position as a response. I'm not certain that anonymous knee-jerk reactions from people who anonymously sling mud necessarily translates to how people would express their views face-to-face over a cup of coffee. A politics forum is obviously going to attract the most passionate followers of politics though, so we may get a false sense that the extreme political divisions are more wide-spread than they are across mainstream society.
     
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    And with Kavanaugh it was Blasey-Ford, who went with him to school, not the Dems. See how that works? I doubt, however, you can see your own hypocrisy.
     
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    she didn’t go to school with him and no there were plenty of dems in the Senate attacking him
     
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    Let's examine what you're offering here as something you think is logical ... You say McConnell wouldn't abide by Senate rules and protocol that you can't specify, so it was okay for Reid to change Senate rules and protocol which you won't acknowledge.
     
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    And yet they couldn't find anyone to support Balsey-Ford's accusations. We saw how that worked.
     
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    but you all whined about the Senate Rules and Protocols......so he changed them for you......you want to go back to the Biden Rule now??/
     
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    McConnel was responsible for Harry's nuclear option... I' read it, re-read it, tried to comprehend it, and hurt myself. Stop it! :truce:
     
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    Which is what? Bend over, grab the ankles, be a respectable Republican, and submit to Democrats' demands?
     
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    These troops serving with Kerry, they weren't politicians, they were whistleblowers. Democrats love whistleblowers, don't they?
     
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    Apparently there are two Biden rules. The Biden rule was 180 degrees opposite when the choice was under the Bush Administration than when the choice was under the Obama Administration.

    1992 - Biden said Bush shouldn't nominate anyone until after the election.

    "As a result, it is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed."

    2016 - Biden said the president (then Obama) had a Constitutional duty to nominate a replacement and Congress was obligated to have a hearing and vote, even during an election year.

    "I made it absolutely clear that I would go forward with a confirmation process as [Senate Judiciary] chairman, even a few months before a presidential election, if the nominee were chosen with the advice, and not merely the consent, of the Senate, just as the Constitution requires. The Senate will need to fulfill its constitutional responsibility by considering, debating and voting on that nominee."


    In reconciling the apparent differences in two extremely opposite "Biden rules," Biden said this in 2016, (after changing to his new rule from his previous rule in 1992) :

    "My purpose was not to obstruct, but to call for two important goals: restoring a more consultative process between the White House and the Senate in filling Supreme Court vacancies, and encouraging the nomination of a consensus candidate who could lower the partisan temperature in the country."

    Looks like Biden's 2016 Rule is greater than Biden's 1992 Rule, as his most recently stated "rule". I expect that he shall come back 'round to defense of his 1992 rule in a day or two if he hasn't already done so.
     
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    McConnell ABUSED the Senate filibuster to OBSTRUCT Obama's Federal Court nominations coming up for a vote.

    That is what PRECIPITATED the current situation.

    Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me.
     
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    So you are DENYING that the GOP Senate did everything they could to OBSTRUCT Obama? :eek:

    Sad!
     
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    So McConnell did what the Dems did to Bush......only Reid and the left refused to compromise like Bush did.....they went Nuclear and now it's' backfired on the left.....bigly
     
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    What? Holton Arms is an all-girls' school.

    Ford attended the elite Holton-Arms School at the time she alleged that Kavanaugh attacked her. He was a student at Georgetown Prep School.
     
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    For one thing, McConnell couldn't block Federal Judge nominations to be sent to the floor for a vote.
    The vote to send a nominee to the floor for a confirmation vote is done by the Senate Judiciary Committee which was run by the Democratics when Reid was Majority Leader. So as Majority Leader Reid changed the rules.
    I don't have to look anything up. Reid wanted to ram through an incredible number of Obama nominations in the 2nd term because Obama wasn't very actively trying up to then. Reid had his Senate change the rules to get those confirmations done and it was done.
     
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    This isn't about Kamala Harris. This is about the GOP lying about their reasons for appointing a justice in 2016.
     
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    In 2016, did you oppose Obama appointing a justice because you didn't think one should be appointed during the election year, or because you didn't want a democratic president to appoint a supreme court justice even though the constitution requires that he and congress do so?
     
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    The democrats are only saying we should wait because the GOP stole a justice in 2016 and to show GOP hypocrisy. Do you believe that the president should appoint a Supreme Court justice in an election year? What about in 2016?
     
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    If he learned from the democrats then he should have realized that the republicans stole a nomination. And things won't be right until they get one back.
     
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