AOC says Ginsburg's death should 'radicalize' Dems

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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Radicalize = more mostly peaceful riots.
     
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    I dunno, maybe you should ask your fearless leader

     
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    The wise thing to do, in order to save america from creeping fascism, is to vote republicans out of power.

    And, fyi, when AOC says 'radicalize dems' she means 'galvanize'.

    But, equating here choice of words with looting and rioting and jihadism will further the right wing fascist agenda, of course, so we can expect more propaganda and lies from the right.

    I got bad news for you:

    There are more of us, than there are of you.

    Deal with it.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    ****.
     
  5. struth

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    The opposite is in fact true....as we see the AOC encouraging more Brownshirts with her comment

    Seriously...you are now trying to say she didn't say what she said....she really said something else? Sorry that dog won't hunt

    More Americans ID as Conservative then Liberal.....Americans won't stand for DNC facsism and frankly are put off by your violence
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

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    But right wing hypocrisy doesn't bother you.

    "I want you to use my words against me: if there's a republic president in 2016 and a vacancy in the last year of the 1st term, you can say Lindsay Graham says 'you can let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination, AND YOU CAN USE MY WORDS AGAINST ME' and you'd be absolutely right" ---Sen. Lindsay Graham

    Got it.
     
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    All this is just talk about what's best for a candidate or for a political party.

    None of what I have read above is about what's best for the country.
    A Supreme Court that is stacked one way or the other is bad for this country - it operates best with a split in ideologies with a couple of swing votes in the middle.

    If we start having a Court that ALWAYS swings one direction, you will get larger and larger portions of Americans who feel they are being left out
    of the process. And the current split in the country may become a canyon.

    If it's a matter of winning some and losing some, then the country will grumble, but it won't freak out. If suddenly the court shifts to a 6 - 3 majority,
    then whichever side is left out is going to eventually give up on the courts and take matters into their own hands.

    It's VERY BAD for this country to have one President appointing three judges - Republican or Democrat. Too much power on one side of the aisle
    leaves you with One Party Rule and we become the Chinese or Russians.

    That's the real danger here.
     
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    Let me see to galvanize is to dip in molten zinc, seems like a Interesting idea...
     
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    Nope we've had essentially one party rule in that regard since FDR's third term, time to shift back so the other side can undo the damage.
     
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    Violent left wing gangs operate beyond the reach of the law.
    The US criminal justice system is a sinking titanic wreck.
     
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    Thank God for the Electoral College.
     
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    Brer Rabbit to Democrats: "Please don't burn down what's left of your cities!"
    Oh, and please don't throw me in the briar patch. ;-)
     
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    But the constitution mandates that the president and congress pick one.
     
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    The dumb **** hasnt learned what overplaying your hand means
     
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    The president has the right to appoint the judges of lower courts and Trump has done the same thing. I don't see how this means its ok for the GOP to lie about their reasons for appointing a justice in 2016.
     
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    It's politics Politicians lie. Like I said, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
     
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    She's not advocating for rioting or looting. That's right wing propaganda.


    Fascism, ?? The vast majority of published articles on political influence leaning towards fascism is critical of the right. and I had to cut this list in half due to the
    16,000 character limit.

    Madeleine Albright. "Will we stop Trump before it's too late." The New York Times. April 6, 2018.

    Daniel Altman. "This is how every genocide begins." Foreign Policy. November 30, 2017.

    Samir Amin. "The return of fascism in contemporary capitalism." Monthly Review. September 2014.

    Associated Press. "Obama: Protect democracy or risk taking path of Nazi Germany." CBS News online. December 9, 2017.

    Peter Beinart. "Why Trump supporters believe he is not corrupt." The Atlantic. August 22, 2018.

    Ruth Ben-Ghiat. “An American authoritarian: The Republican presidential candidate is not a fascist, but his campaign bears notable similarities to the reign of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.” The Atlantic. August 10, 2016.

    Roger Berkowitz. "Why Arendt matters: Revisiting 'The Origins of Totalitarianism'." Los Angeles Review of Books. March 18, 2017

    Noah Berlatsky. "The Trump effect: New study connects white American intolerance and support for authoritarianism." NBCnews.com. May 27, 2018.

    Mark Bickhard. " The scary parallels between Trump and Musollini." Rawstory. March 21, 2017

    Joan Biskupic. "Trump's sustained attacks on American rights.' CNN.com. May 27, 2018.

    Aaron Blake. “Stephen Miller’s authoritarian declaration: Trump’s national security actions ‘will not be questioned.” Washington Post. February 13, 201

    Paul Blumenthal. "This stunningly racist French novel is how Steve Bannon explains the world. Huffington Post. March 4, 2017.

    William Boardman. “Constitutional crisis deepens as Trump fights checks and balances.” Reader Supported News Online. February 11, 2017.

    Tom Boggiani. "Trump sucks his followers in by using the language of fascists: Yale linguistics expert." Rawstory. May 25, 2019.

    Christopher Browning. "Lessons from Hitler's Rise." New York Review of Books. April 20, 2017.

    Christopher Browning. "The Suffocation of Democracy." New York Review of Books. October 25, 2018.

    Jonathan Chait. "The Republican Party's gearing up for war on the rule of law." New York Magazine. October 30, 2017.

    Isaac Chotiner. “How much do the early days of the Trump administration look like the Third Reich?” Interview with historian Richard Evans. Slate. February 10, 2017.

    Issac Chotiner. “Is Donald Trump a fascist? Yes and no.” An Interview with Robert Paxton. Slate. February 10, 2016.

    Isaac Chotiner. “Too Close for comfort: how much do the early days of the Trump administration look like the Third Reich?" Interview with historian Richard Evans." Slate. February 10, 2017.

    Sarah Churchwell. "American fascism: It has happened here." The New York Review of Books. June 22, 2020.

    Chauncey DeVega. "Are white people ready to bail on democracy? These researchers say the danger is real." Salon. August 2, 2018.

    Chauncey DeVega. "Soldiers of the boogaloo: David Neiwert on the far right's plans for a new civil war." Salon. May 18, 2020.

    Lee Drutman, Larry Diamond and Joe Goldman. "Follow the leader: Exploring American support for democracy and authoritarianism." Voter Study Group. February 2018.

    Lee Drutman, Larry Diamond and Joe Goldman. "Testing the limits: Examining public support for checks on presidential power." Voter Study Group. June 2018

    The Economist. “America’s system of checks and balances might struggle to contain a despot.” February 4, 2017.

    Geoff Eley. "Is Trump a fascist?" Historians for Peace and Democracy. Summer 2017.

    Ellen Grey Ellis. "The internet protocols of the elders of Zion." Wired. March 12, 2017.

    John Feffer. "The Trump dystopian nightmare: Nucelar war, climate change and a clash of civilizations are all on the horizon." Alternet. March 12, 2017

    Reza Fiyouzat. "Trump in perespective: Fascism or just more barbarism?" Counterpunch. March 12, 2017.

    Mark Follman. "Trumpocracy: Tracking the creeping authoritarianism of the 45th president." Mother Jones. December 4, 2017.

    John Bellamy Foster. "Neofascism in the White House." Monthly Review. April, 2017.

    John Bellamy Foster. "This is not populism." Monthly Review. June 2017.

    Richard E. Frankel. "Here is how Donald Trump becomes a dictator." Raw Story. October 5, 2018.

    Richard E. Frankel. "A professor of German history explains the true horror of Trump’s response to Charlottesville." Raw Story. August 16, 2017.

    David Frum. “How to build an autocracy.” The Atlantic. January 30, 2017.

    Megan Garber. “‘First they came’: The poem of the protests, Martin Niemöller’s lines, written just after the Holocaust, argued against apathy—and for the moral connectedness of all people.” The Atlantic. January 29, 2017.

    Masha Gessen,Autocracy: Rules for survival.” New York Review of Books. November 10, 2016.

    Henry Giroux. "Donald Trump's fascist politics and the language of fascism." Raw Story. November 18, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. "Facism starts with words - and Trump has a startling romance with the rhetoric of dictators." Raw Story. January 11, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. " The Hardening of Society and the Rise of Cultures of Cruelty in Neo-Fascist America." Counterpunch. March 17, 2017.

    Henry Giroux. "Neoliberal fascism and the echoes of echoes of history." Truthdig. August 2, 2018.

    Henry Giroux. "Rethinking the normalization of fascism in the post-truth era." Tikkun. April 1, 2019.

    Amy Goodman. “Noam Chomsky: Trump's victory recalls memories of Hitler & fascism's spread across Europe.” Democracy Now. Interview with Noam Chomsky. December 6, 2016.

    Van Gosse. "An 'illiberal democracy' if Trump wins again." Organizing Upgrade. May 14, 2020.

    Rosie Gray. “The nationalist right is coming for Reince Priebus.” The Atlantic. February 14, 2017.

    Zoltan Grossman. "Fascism denial ignores some inconvenient truths." ZNet. October 29, 2018.

    Andrew Gumbel. "Is This Fascism?" Los Angeles Review of Books. July 24, 2017.

    Alexandra Hall. "Controversial Proud Boys embrace 'Western values,' reject feminism and political correctness." WisconsinWatch.org. November 26, 2017.

    John Haltiwanger. "'There need to be mass protests': Authoritarianism experts say time is running out for Americans to stop Trump." Business Insider. February 12, 2020.

    Bernard E. Harcourt. "How Trump fuels the fascist right." The New York Review of Books. November 29, 2018.

    Josh Harkinson. “The dark history of the White House aides who crafted Trump's ‘Muslim ban’: Here's how Stephen Bannon and Stephen Miller have been boosters of Islamophobes and white nationalists." Mother Jones. January 30, 2017.

    Josh Harkinson. “Meet the white nationalist trying to ride the Trump train to lasting power: Alt-right architect aims to make racism cool again.Mother Jones. October 27, 2016.

    Thom Hartmann. “It can still happen here: Donald Trump, Ben Carson and the “American fascists” among us. Sinclair Lewis feared demagoguery and a corporate ruling class. The right is bringing his dystopia to fruition.” Salon. November 4, 2015.

    Head Space Blog. “History repeats itself: National Socialism – past and present: The psychology of Nazism.” February 15, 2016.

    Chris Hedges. “Donald Trump: The dress rehearsal for fascism.” Truthdig.com. October 16, 2016.

    Chris Hedges. "A Last Chance for Resistance." Truthdig.com. March 19, 2017.

    Chris Hedges. “Make America ungovernable.” Truthdig.com. February 5, 2017.

    Aleksander Hemon. "Trump’s nationalism advances on a predictable trajectory to violence. His supporters will kill when they’re told to." The Intercept. May 2, 2020.

    Clive Irving. "It is happening here, Trump is already early-stage Mussolini." The Daily Beast. June 30, 2018
     
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    And if AOC had actually used that word, that would be relevant.

    Now look up "radicalize" for us please.
     
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    sure sounds like it...leftwingers are rioting and looting and she’s asking the. become even more radical!

    wow a bunch of left wingers writing articles claiming trump is a fascist...genocide? haha sounds like a lot of projection.
     
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    Sure she isn't. Wink Wink Nod Nod.
     
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    Look up "genocide" while you're at it.
     
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    Screeching freaks
     
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    Before Reid nuked the filibuster for judicial appointments, repubs filibustered EVERY obama judicial appointment. .

    filibuster-dead-03.jpg
     
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    I know what it means, but why? My post wasn't about it.
     

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