>>MOD WARNING<< Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Dead

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  1. glitch

    glitch Well-Known Member

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    Obama nominated Garland during an election year and his VP Biden argued adamantly that the Senate should confirm during an election year. Therefore this is the new Biden Rule.
     
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    Constitutionalist judges are the exact opposite of authoritarian.
     
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    Once again you are wrong...
    92 Biden created the Rule:

    Chuck reaffirming Biden Rule n 2007
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/schumer-in-2007-dont-confirm-any-bush-supreme-cy

    You all flip flopped on the Rule in 2016, and the GOP Senate changed the rule at your request
     
  4. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What about the Cruz/McConnell rule?

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    They already are!
     
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    Why would you say this? Of course he is. And, the Senate will vote on it. The election will most likely end up at the Supreme Court and with 8 justices, there will be no conclusion. So, a 9th judge is necessary. There are left leaning Republicans that may either vote no on Trump's pick or just vote present but not either yes or no. The Democrats have 47 votes for "no." If 5 voted present, then it would be 48-47 in favor of Trump's pick. So, it's up to McConnell to get the Romney's and other liberal Republicans to vote present.
     
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    Democrats should not be playing the hypocrite name calling game. Democrats have many of their own hypocrite statements about this too. Shummer said Garland should receive a vote in the last year of Obama's reign. So, why not Trump's nominee? So, how slimy is Shummer, Pelosi and all the other Democrats? One-third of SCOTUS nominees have been done in the last year of a President's term. There is no Constitutional law preventing it. So, what's the big deal? What you might like to know is that no liberal nominated judge has ever flipped over and voted conservative while being on the SC. However, there are several conservative judges that have done just that. Sutter and Roberts are flippers.
     
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  8. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course democrats are hypocrites. I'm just reminding everyone that so are the republicans. This game of "look how much more WE can screw the American people," is going to have to stop at some point.
     
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    The Democrats are upset the GOP is doing to them exactly what they would do to the GOP, if the situation were reversed.
    That's all there is to it.
     
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    https://www.amazon.com/Party-Over-R...600719097&sprefix=mike+lofgren,aps,176&sr=8-1

    A lot of judges that say that are really just reactionaries in robes. They rule in favor of the state more often than they rule for individuals.

    The justice that focused most tightly on liberty and rights was RBG.
     
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  11. TOG 6

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    This is why she voted "no" to all the cases having to do with gun control, both in the ruling and to grant cert.
    Nothing rules more in favor for the state than unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the right of the law abiding to keep and bear arms.
     
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    What do you believe when the party that you have trolled and taunted while ignoring virtually every unspoken rule in the book takes power.

    Will you cheer when they start doing things that are “legal” but also against the principles of democracy?

    Republicans will not be in power forever.
     
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    RBG and most liberal judges have ruled against the Constitution as written and that is why we have lost many of our liberty's over the years.
     
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    These statements are not being "hypocritical", these are lies.
     
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    I'm aware. I don't think the SC follows the Constitution or really cares about it. They interpret it to support their political party's position. It's amazing how that happens practically every time. (grin)
     
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    Biden has been in office so long that he has multiple positions on every issue!
     
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    You forget where the Republican Party was in 2009 and 2010 when they were watching Obama’s Democrats bulldozing the Affordable Care Act through Congress. Why else would you be acting like the Democrat Party are innocent victims in all of this?
     
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    Please quote me where I have ever said that Democrats were “innocent”. With each administration comes more escalation.

    As to the ACA, what norms did they break to pass it?
     
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    On this issue alone he was against seating a Justice during an election year (the Biden Rule) and then when Obama was President he was for it and now he is once more against it. Almost makes you dizzy watching.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    It makes perfect sense when you realize neither party really cares about what is best for the nation and only care for power.
     
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    Except that many - including me - believe that naming a conservative justice is helping, not hurting America.
     
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    Because of what happened with the Garland nomination
     
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    You are feigning ignorance acting as though Republicans are not doing to Democrats now what Democrats we’re doing to Republicans 10 years ago. Please tell us what norms that the Republicans are breaking now that the Democrats haven’t already done before.
     
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    Please don’t ignore my question to your response just to ask your own.

    What norms did the Democrats break to pass the ACA? It make one believe your are not discussing the topic in good faith.
     

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