What is the real difference between Democrats and Republicans

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  1. Cougarbear

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    What are we really fighting about and for? There is a reason for political parties to establish their Platforms so people can know better what and who they are voting for. I've yet to hear one politician running for office object to any of their political party's platform or even a portion of their platform. So, I assume then that politicians believe in and will push the agenda of the party's platform once elected. Their rhetoric and flipflops are really pointless to argue about then. So, here are the Democrat's and Republican's Platforms side by side. Take them to heart because so far, each time Democrats have obtained enough power, they have pushed these platform agendas forward. https://downloads.frcaction.org/EF/EF18H05.pdf
     
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    The Republican Party is for individual freedom in a capitalist free market society.

    Democrats have become the socialist party.
     
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    I doubt most Democrats ever read their Platform. How could most of them ever go for what's in there.
    https://downloads.frcaction.org/EF/EF18H05.pdf
     
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    Freedom for employers means power over employees. Freedom for the rich means power over the political process.
     
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    Republicans abolished slavery. If you don't like the way your employer weilds his power over you then you are free to quit, find another place of employment, or go into business for yourself and wield enormous power over your employees.

    The only way to prevent the rich from being more powerful than the not so rich is to abolish the rich. Being rich by it's very definition means you have more power. In a free country you too can strive to be rich. But if you want to abolish the rich and deny everyone the freedom to become rich then you are only condemning everyone to poverty and likely you will meet up with violent opposition if you try.
     
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    So says Pelosi, Soros, Blumberg, most of Hollywood, Union Bosses and a whole host of other political Democrats. In a Capitalist country, the poor can rise and become rich. Just ask the Professional Black athletes. Or, those in MLM's who have risen to the rich status. In Socialist and Communist countries, the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. And if you argue about that, you are banned to Siberia or killed.
     
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    “Family Research Council”?
    The Family Research Council?

    They’re listed as an “extremist” group.

    All this tells us, once again, is how far the Republican Party has devolved over the years: Nativism, extreme Nationalism, authoritarianism.

    The tell for extremist is their inability to think about their own thinking. Likely the reason many Republican’s only talk about Democrats this and Democrats that.

    Yes. I’ve read the actual party platform and know the actual issues it is attempting to address.

    I’m from a Republican family and have witnessed the party drift farther and farther right over the years until there are zero living members of my family registered as Republican. What happened to their perspective on the environment, science, education, economics?
     
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    Both parties are filled with power mongering scumbags who could give two shits about this country. All any of them care about is votes and political power. Each pander to groups with different outlooks to secure their votes, but neither group really cares about anything but power for themselves, and will say or do anything to secure power.

    That being said, republicans will move the country in the direction I want it to go in, so that is who I tend to vote for. I still despise all of their politicians though, and trust them as far as I can spit on them. And the democratic politicians are just as bad, if not worse.
     
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    Government control over Corporations means no freedom for Capitalism and socialism for their employees. Total power in the hands of the politicians means Communism for all.

    From the "Declaration of Independence" - We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.:

    Life - It's a God given right. The Constitution's purpose is protect it. Abortion, euthanasia, capital punishment and life and death medical boards erode this right.

    Liberty- Free will. Freedom of speech, expression of thought, freedom of political views, freedom of religion believe. We are the cusp of losing all these liberties as politicians in concert with controlled media and academia demonize, attack, and try and destroy anyone or dogma that they deem is not in line with their philosophy.

    Pursuit of Happiness - Each of us has a right to property be it of person or material property. We should be free to live our lives as we wish as long as they do not infringe on others rights. We have been giving up these rights as we elect politicians to make laws that put onerous laws and regulations on us.
     
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    The gop are nice people

    The dems aren insufferable.

    That's the primary difference, there may be others.
     
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    I completely disagree that the Party has drifted farther to the right. What evidence to you have? None. What has happened is the Democrat party and their constituents have drifted so far to the Bernie and AOC left that it seems like the Republicans have drifted to the right. If anything the Republican Party has drifted left over the years. It's the Republican Party that is more inclusive with ideas and Politicians that are more left leaning like a Romney. Do you hear the Party yelling loudly that women don't have a right to choose? No. What you hear is that the unborn babies have rights as well as their mothers and their needs and desires to live should be heard. On the other hand, if you don't agree with Democrats you are automatically a bigot, racist, homophobe and so on. You have no rights anymore in the Democrat Party. You either do as your are told or shut up! Way to the left of say 50 years ago.
     
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    There are powerful rich persons inside and outside our country that believe we should not have declared our independence. Therefore, the idea of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (property) is not a right afforded in the Constitution. And, only when it helps these people, the Constitution is viable. Other than that, the Constitution should be changed or demolished. George Soros is one of these One World Order persons that want to see the U.S. destroyed and become a sector of the World Governments run by the U.N. and World Courts. The Democrat Party has been taken over by those who want the same thing as long as those special people get to keep their own wealth and power.
     
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    Life, Liberty, and property, and the Pursuit of happiness are God given rights to all men and woman. It is the one part that is included in the preamble to differ ourselves from any any other country at the time. We threw off the shackles of the Kings, Queens, Dictators and others who had those powers. We were now the rulers of our own kingdom. (being small of course) We added a Bill of Rights to lay out the framework of what those rights were. No one owned property before without the permission of the Rulers. To ensure these rights we drew up the Constitution and established the three branches of government with checks and balances. The sole purpose of the Constitution is to protect those rights, keep us safe internally and externally, from those who would take them away from us. Contrary to believe the government works for us; not us for the government.

    I worry about a society that wants to give up all it's freedom, and give it to a government, thinking that they will supply them with all their needs.
     
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    The problem is that all of society doesn't want to give up its freedoms. The problem is too many won't speak up and will sit back and watch it happen to them. It's the 20-80 rule. 20% will do something and 80% won't. The best thing we can hope for is that 100% of Republicans get out and vote for Trump and all Republicans in all elections.
     
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    Platforms went the way of the President's budget submissions back in the 60's and 70's, they aren't worth the paper they are written on. Parties don't dictate to the winners of their party's nomination procedures what will be their policies, it's only about the candidates now.
     
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    Can you explain who a company is supposed to work if management doesn't have "power" over employees? And an employee is absolutely free to quit and seek other employment. Didn't we learn last election all those rich people giving money to Clinton lost that power?
     
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    These days it's like the Right are laid back hippies, and the Left are stitched up Southern Baptists.
     
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    And some of the most attached to their freedoms are those who claim to be Socialists. A delicious irony.
     
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    You have to understand that the left is keeping the violence in their own back yard. Wait until it spreads to the "stitched up Southern Baptist's" doorstep. You have no idea how many concealed guns are in a Texas Southern Baptist church service. Wedgewood was my wakeup call and Sutherland Springs woke up the rest a couple of years ago. I had dinner with the aunt of one of the Wedgewood victims from 1999 the other night. Surprisingly, she was the only person at the table full of Baptists not armed.
     
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    Okay, but the same thing is happening in my gun free country.
     
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    Progressives / Democrats push society for change (for better or for worse)
    Conservatives / Republicans push society to remain the same (for better of for worse)

    With our failing education system, unfunded wars, unimaginable debt & plummeting position in the world — the same isn’t a viable option.

    Also look at every major issue in American history, conservatives (not necessarily Republicans though) have been on the wrong side of it. Women's suffrage, interracial marriage, slavery, same sex marriage, child labor laws, financial reform, science, climate change, vaccinations, minimum wage, workplace safety... the list goes on for quite a while.
     
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    What is "the thing" you are talking about? Conservatives being more aware of their surroundings and arming themselves, just in case?
     
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    How could Democrats "go for what's in there" (meaning their 2020 Party Platform)?

    That's easy! They 'go for' the thing that's most important to them, but which is not listed on that Party Platform sheet -- FREE STUFF!

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    Is their a belief difference between parties? Definately. Is there a tactics difference? Definately not. Whatever one party objects to when they are in the minority, is the first tactic they employ when they become the majority. Both parties push the envelopes when they have the majority. That is why "hypocrisy" is the word of the day today. Outrage is no longer determined by what is right and wrong, but on which side of the fence you are standing. The only cure is for the voters in both parties to elect people that are willing to compromise, or outright civil war.
     
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    How can you have a business where you do not set rules for your employees to follow? Any rule equates to power over an employee. But rules are necessary in all aspects of our life.

    Everyone has just as much power as the rich over the political process. You have the power of one vote. Just as the rich does. If a politician sells himself to the rich, he can be voted out of office.
     

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