The Holocaust

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  1. Scott

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    There's a lot of good info at this site.
    https://codoh.com/

    https://codoh.com/library/document/t...r-illusion/en/
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    In 1988 the scientific team of Fred Leuchter (a US execution-expert "Mr Death" in gas-chamber technology) visited Poland, and concluded that the Auschwitz "gas chambers" could not possibly have functioned in the alleged manner – i.e., they were not gas chambers[2]. In the following years, others would confirm the accuracy of his seminal, "Leuchter Report" . The German chemist Germar Rudolf, who worked at the Max Plank institute for Solid State Physics, is now in jail, because he likewise measured the high levels of the cyanide in the walls of the de-lousing chambers. It happens that this gas bonds permanently with iron, and iron is present in all the cement etc of stone walls. Whereas, he found none in the walls of what were supposed to be the "gas chambers" which were mainly shower units. He thereby confirmed the work of Leuchter who likewise only found remains of the cyanide gas-insecticide in the de-lousing chambers.
     
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  3. Scott

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    There's footage of the liberation of a concentration camp in this old newsreel.

    "COMBAT BULLETIN 36” 1945 ARMY PICTORIAL FILM CONCENTRATION CAMPS & GERMAN ATROCITIES XD52274


    youtube (dot) com/watch?v=go2bwt-4DTc


    It shows the usual footage of bodies being buried in mass graves. It attributes the deaths to starvation and typhus. It makes no mention of gas chambers.

    It does mention medical experiments performed on prisoners. I'm still wondering how much of that issue is true. It might all be true and it might have been exaggerated but I kind of doubt that it was totally false. Back in the seventies a jewish woman who lived across the street from my grandmother in Miami married an old jewish guy from Poland. She told me that he'd told her that the Germans had performed experiments on him when he was an inmate at a concentration camp. She said they removed his stomach. I had a meal with them once and he did in fact eat like a bird.

    I don't see how to what extent the medical experiment issue is true can be determined.
     
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    why do you insist on posting crap that you know damn well is not true ron?

    The prosecutor at the eichman trial admitted there were no orders to murder anyone, so clearly its not "systematic" if not in the system!0
    the only ability required for this is to be conscious and capable of reading!

    Sure Russia released the records, there were never more than 400,000 people ever set foot in Auschwitz!

    [​IMG]

    The least deaths were Jews!

    Shes a fraud tried to claim woodchuck bones were prisoner remains that she got hundreds of yards outside the camp perimeter because she couldnt find any inside the perimeter! lol

    then when you check the fuel records you discover it was impossible because their was not enough fuel lol
    [​IMG] [​IMG]
    What a bunch of nonsense.
    [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]

    Academic studies
    since agree that in total close to 1.3 million people arrived at Auschwitz. About 1.1 million of them died there.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50743973

    Britain didnt want any competition!

    We have the records, simple math.

    They falsely jacked the number up by including the ghettos, there were no gas chambers in the ghettos! Piper changed it again, now down to 960,000.

    4 million to 1 million!


    Just a mere 3 MILLION COUNTING ERROR BY CREDITED PEER REVIEWED ACADEMICS!
     
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    @DrewBenson

    I didn't want you to think that I had "run away" from our discussion at an unrelated thread so I took the liberty of moving it here.

    Among my contentions concerning the Holocaust is that the German people have been unjustly accused in Allied atrocity propaganda(1) of many crimes they did not commit.

    I simply don't believe that the Germans were as murderous and barbaric as most people imagine after too much exposure to Hollywood's melodrama.

    That does not mean that I don't believe the Holocaust happened. It means that too few Westerners acknowledge that all sides used atrocity propaganda including the victorious Allies.

    In your last Post to me you insisted that I produce a list of the early Bolshevik / Communist leaders who were Jewish.
    I already provided about 12 names in various sources I cited but you insisted on more so here you go:


    EXCERPT "The most detailed description of Jewish influence in the Bolshevik ‘revolution comes from Robert Wilton, the Russian correspondent of The Times. In 1920 he published a book in French, Les Derniers Jours des Romanofs, which gave the racial background of all the members of the Soviet government. (This does not appear in the later English translation, for some odd reason.) After the publication of this monumental work, Wilton was ostracised by the press, and he died in poverty in 1925. He reported that the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:


    "Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

    NAME NATIONALITY
    Bronstein (Trotsky)
    Jew
    Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Lourie (Larine) Jew
    Ouritski Jew
    Volodarski Jew
    Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
    Smidovitch Jew
    Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
    Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
    Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
    Krylenko Russian
    Lounatcharski Russian

    “The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following:

    MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY
    President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
    Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
    Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
    Agriculture Protian Armenian
    Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
    Food Schlichter Jew
    Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
    State Control Lander Jew
    State Lands Kauffman Jew
    Works V. Schmidt Jew
    Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
    Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
    Religions Spitzberg Jew
    Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Hygiene Anvelt Jew
    Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
    Press Volodarski Jew
    Elections Ouritski Jew
    Justice I. Steinberg Jew
    Refugees Fenigstein Jew
    Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
    Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew

    “The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee:

    NAME NATIONALITY
    Sverdlov
    (president) Jew
    Avanessof (sec.) Armenian
    Bruno Lett
    Babtchinski Jew
    Bukharin Russian
    Weinberg Jew
    Gailiss Jew
    Ganzburg Jew
    Danichevski Jew
    Starck German
    Sachs Jew
    Scheinmann Jew
    Erdling Jew
    Landauer Jew
    Linder Jew
    Wolach Czech
    Dimanstein Jew
    Encukidze Georgian
    Ermann Jew
    Joffe Jew
    Karkline Jew
    Knigissen Jew
    Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew
    Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
    Krylenko Russian
    KrassikofSachs Jew
    Kaprik Jew
    Kaoul Lett
    Ulyanov (lenin) Russian
    Latsis Jew
    Lander Jew
    Lounatcharski Russian
    Peterson Lett
    Peters Lett
    Roudzoutas Jew
    Rosine Jew
    Smidovitch Jew
    Stoutchka Lett
    Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
    Sosnovski Jew
    Skrytnik Jew
    Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
    Teodorovitch Jew
    Terian Armenian
    Ouritski Jew
    Telechkine Russian
    Feldmann Jew
    Froumkine Jew
    Souriupa Ukranian
    Tchavtchevadze Georgian
    Scheikmann Jew
    Rosental Jew
    Achkinazi Imeretian
    Karakhane Karaim (Jew)
    Rose Jew
    Sobelson (Radek) Jew
    Sclichter Jew
    Schikolini Jew
    Chklianski Jew
    Levine (Pravdine) Jew

    “The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow:

    NAME NATIONALITY
    Dzerjinski (president) Pole
    Peters (vice-president) Lett
    Chklovski Jew
    Kheifiss Jew
    Zeistine Jew
    Razmirovitch Jew
    Kronberg Jew
    Khaikina Jewess
    Karlson Lett
    Schaumann Jew
    Leontovitch Jew
    Jacob Goldine Jew
    Glaperstein Jew
    Kniggisen Jew
    Latzis Lett
    Schillenkuss Jew
    Janson Lett
    Rivkine Jew
    Antonof Russian
    Delafabre Jew
    Tsitkine Jew
    Roskirovitch Jew
    G. Sverdlof Jew
    Biesenski Jew
    Blioumkine Jew
    Alexandrevitch Russian
    I. Model Jew
    Routenberg Jew
    Pines Jew
    Sachs Jew
    Daybol Lett
    Saissoune Armenian
    Deylkenen Lett
    Liebert Jew
    Vogel German
    Zakiss Lett
    (CONTINUED) (3)




    (1) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
    https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

    EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

    But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED


    (2). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe."CONTINUED


    (3). "Jews and Bolshevism"
    https://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html
     
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    The AP link is dead and figures in the cited article are mostly inaccurate. The estimated number of death at Auschwitz-Birkenau is 2,1 to 2,5 million. 4 million is the maximum number of death at Auschwitz-Birkenau that is highly speculative. When Auschwitz was set up in 1940, it was intended to hold Polish prisoners who opposed Nazi occupation. 70,000 non-Jewish Polish people eventually died at Auschwitz.

     
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  8. Scott

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    Have you seen this info?
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-20#post-1074290299
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-25#post-1074357307
     
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    That's disinfo. You basically dump up a wall of videos with no analysis and your ONLY "rebuttal" is to point somebody to a page of cut and paste spam.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...he-jews-part-2.610995/page-26#post-1074357667
    Hall of Names (yadvashem.org)
    Debunking Holocaust Denial Claims | ADL
    421_brackman.pdf (wiesenthal.com)
    Holocaust Denial and Distortion - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum (ushmm.org)

    I've often wondered what the possible gain was for holocaust deniers! A group of men murdered millions in a way that is even more sick and twisted than a group of psychopathic serial killers. Yet people actively spend a strange proportion of their life trying to pretend it didn't happen or to claim some pathetic exaggeration is occurring.
     
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    Before writing anything about WW 2 and the Holocaust, it's essential to remember that all sides used atrocity propaganda to demoralize and defame the enemy and the Allies were no different.

    For example, when a Western Allied Army liberated a German work camp, Hollywood movie moguls(1) would have 4 - 5 days to to prepare the camp for movie production.

    Among the things that the fledgling Holocaust Industry and movie crews would do was to supplement the piles of bodies of "Jews" with the bodies of dead German POW and dead German civilians to further horrify the audience.

    Other deliberate hoaxes used to demonize the Germans were fake "human skin" lampshades, fake "human fat" soap, shrunken heads from far away.

    At the infamous Nuremberg "Trial", the Germans were even prosecuted and punished for using a homicidal "vaporizer" that made Jewish bodies disappear.
    This device was especially helpful in explaining why there are so few mass graves in or around Auschwitz - Birkenau - Monowitz.

    Because the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2), (3) profits from higher death tolls, we can expect grossly inflated casualty numbers of 1.1 million and more.

    The reasons I regard the death tolls of 1.1 million and more to be grossly inflated are numerous.
    1. There are no mass graves (aka hard evidence) anywhere near A - B - M
    2. Insufficient coal handling infrastructure to cremate more than 100,000 bodies
    3. Only enough coal / coke to cremate about 80,000 according to Auschwitz ledger.
    4. The Soviets captured the Auschwitz Death Ledger but waited until 1989 (?) to release them.
    They show that 68,864 people died(4) of all causes as of 31 December 1943 and since the Soviets captured A - B - M in January of 1945, the evil Germans would have to have killed and cremated well over 1 million people in about 1 year and then make all the teeth and the skeletal remains of over one million people disappear.
    5. Last but not least, Air Photo evidence shows no evidence of burn pits, open fires, smoke from chimneys etc during the time period not covered by the Auschwitz Death Ledger.(5)

    Finally, mainstream Holocaust historian, Arno Meyer claimed that far more people died of disease than were executed by any means.

    It is only the extremely gullible and those too full of anti German hate to look at the Auschwitz story objectively that could fall for this additional chapter in profitable Holocaust Industry fraudulence.

    The most important thing to remember about any study of history is:

    "Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."
    George Orwell


    Thanks,


    (1). “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


    (2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (3) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (4) “Deaths at Auschwitz, 1942”
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.info/decrypts/deaths_at_auschwitz_1942_v3.pdf

    EXCERPT “More Catholics than Jews died at Auschwitz. That is the plain testimony of these Death Books.

    It has been averred that ‘Up to 175,000’ Jews were deported to Auschwitz by the end of 1942 . That is impossibly high, because less than forty percent of all inmates were Jewish: a figure of fifty or sixty thousand would be more reasonable. Likewise Mr Jan van Pelt averred that ‘In 1942, two hundred thousand Jews were gassed in buildings 1 and 2.’8 There cannot have been anything like such numbers arriving: and the Death Books have around onethirtieth that number of Jews die in that year! These texts tend to claim that huge numbers of Jews arrived without being registered (and were gassed right away), however we would rather stick to documented data.

    Grand Total: 68,864 deaths” CONTINUED


    (5). "Air Photo Evidence"
    https://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndaerial.html
    Auschwitz-Birkenau

    EXCERPT "The few air photos of Auschwitz-Birkenau known to date from the period of December 1943 to February 1945 show no signs of fuel depots, smoke from chimneys or open fires, burning pits or pyres. The photos were altered: Zyklon B input hatches, groups of inmates, and walls around crematoria were retouched onto the photo negatives. Insofar as they still exist, photos of good quality are being kept from the public. One must assume that any actual mass murder activities would not have escaped the notice of the air photo interpreters. This would have resulted in the bombing of the camp - which, however, was carefully refrained from." CONTINUED
     
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    Typhus killed millions of prisoners in Nazi concentration camps such as Auschwitz, Theresienstadt, and Bergen-Belsen. The unhygienic conditions in camps allowed diseases such as typhus to flourish. The author of the famous diary and her sister died of typhus. I suspect it was the main cause of death at Nazi camps. Gas chambers may have been used selectively for some prisoners to be euthanized.
     
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    I lived, worked, studied in Germany where I came to know, live and / or work with even more Holocaust survivors, German and Allied Military Veterans.

    I don't understand how anyone with more than the superficial knowledge of WW 2 and the Holocaust can be so gullible as to believing such vicious and sanctimonious slander against a single nationality for losing a war.

    Anti German slander has been quite profitable but why would anyone believe a proven fraudulent industry that has already been caught in countless deliberate lies, "long running scams" and "false restitution claims"?

    Who could be so gullible as someone who still believes the same people who tried to deceive the world with fake human skin pocketbooks, human skin lampshades, human fat soap, shrunken heads etc ?

    World War 2 and especially after was a horrific era in which Jewish Communists set up real death camps that " made Auschwitz look like a holiday camp." (3)

    Nobody that I know denies the tragic fact that many Jews were among those suffered and died miserable deaths.
    It was primarily Communist Jews who were targeted because of the Soviet threat but many other Jews suffered too.

    At the same time, many Jews rose to the highest ranks in both Germany's military and Nazi party but facts like that are repressed by the influencial Holocaust Industry.

    My overall contention is that the Germans behaved no worse than anyone else during that horrific time period and that George Orwell was entirely correct when he wrote:
    "Who controls the past controls the future;
    Who controls the present controls the past."


    (1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

    EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


    (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
    http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298

    EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED


    (3). “AN EYE FOR AN EYE”
    https://fpp.co.uk/online/00/07/Collins210700.html

    EXCERPTS “But what you rarely hear is what the Jews themselves are capable of -- in Israel, where the Begins and other terrorists were every bit as bad as the Nazis, and in postwar Poland, where concentration camps run by Jews made Auschwitz look like a holiday camp.

    His facts have been cross-referenced and checked, and it took him seven years to do the research. It is so good, in fact, that his critics mounted a massive campaign to prevent the book from seeing the light of day.

    Inhuman is an inadequate word for what happened in the immediate post-war period in Poland. In the communist camps, most of the commandants were Jews seeking revenge, and as the author puts it, "In 1945 they killed a great number of Germans. Not Nazis, not Hitler's trigger men, but German civilians, German men, women, children and babies whose "'crime' was just to be German." CONTINUED


    (4). "Crimes and Mercies: The Fate of German Civilians Under Allied Occupation, 1944 1950 Revised Edition"

    https://www.amazon.com/Crimes-Mercies-German-Civilians-Occupation/dp/0889225672



    EXCERPT "More than 9 million Germans died as a result of deliberate Allied starvation and expulsion policies after World War II—one quarter of the country was annexed, and about 15 million people expelled in the largest act of ethnic cleansing the world has ever known. Over 2 million of these alone, including countless children, died on the road or in concentration camps in Poland and elsewhere. That these deaths occurred at all is still being denied by Western governments." CONTINUED


    “Forced labor of Germans after World War II”

    https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Forced_labor_of_Germans_after_World_War_II

    EXCERPT “Forced labour of Germans after World War II refers to the Allied use of German civilians and captured soldiers for forced labor in years following World War II (and in some cases much longer).

    The topic of using Germans as forced labour for reparations was first broached at the Tehran conference in 1943, where Soviet premier Joseph Stalin demanded 4,000,000 German workers.[1]

    Forced labour was also included in the Morgenthau Plan draft from September 1944, and was included in the final protocol of the Yalta conference[2] in January 1945, where it was sanctioned by UK Prime Minister Winston Churchill and US President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In March 1947, an estimated 4,000,000 Germans were being used as forced labour.” CONTINUED
     
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    As I said, I wonder what motivates someone to trivialize or dismiss an event like this. Is it the "feel good" factor? Or the "hey look at my links, they must be true" factor? Or maybe it's some sense of achievement?
     
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    Thanks for your thoughts.

    I don't know why conversations about the Holocaust tend to get snarky but I won't be one to initiate it.

    Mainstream Holocaust historian, Arno Meyer, also states that more people died from disease than were executed so you are not alone .

    In addition to homicidal gas chambers, Allied propagandists claimed that the Germans had homicidal electrocution chambers, homicidal steam chambers and even a homicidal vaporizer that made thousands of people disappear at a time.

    In reality, homicidal gas chambers were just part of the Allied propaganda effort (1).

    There are dozens of reasons why no one attempting to kill large groups of people would not try to attempt mass gassing as a means of execution .

    Just think, if "millions" of people were killed in homicidal gas chambers there would be hundreds of them around instead of none.

    Thanks & enjoy your weekend,




    (1) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.
     
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    All are welcome to watch Einsatzgruppen: The Nazi Death Squads
    Netflix.
    This documentary series examines the Einsatzgruppen, Nazis responsible for the mass murder of Jews, Romani and Soviet prisoners in Eastern Europe.
     
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    Here's some stuff about the Einsatzgruppen to check out. I watched it a long time ago. I'm going to watch it again.


    Vincent Reynouard - Les Einsatzgruppen partie 1 : Hitler et la "guerre juive" - Einsatzgruppen part 1 - Hitler and the Jewish's war
    https://archive.org/details/VincentReynouardEinsatzgruppenHitlerAndTheJewishsWar1De4

    Vincent Reynouard - Les Einsatzgruppen partie 2 : Pourquoi Hitler a envahi l'URSS - Einsatzgruppen part 2 - Why Hitler invaded the USSR
    https://archive.org/details/VincentReynouardEinsatzgruppenPart2WhyHitlerInvadedTheUSSR

    Vincent Reynouard - Les Einsatzgruppen partie 3 : les Einsatzgruppen et les Juifs- Einsatzgruppen part 3 – The einsatzgruppens and the jews
    https://archive.org/details/VincentReynouardLesEinsatzgruppenPartie3LesEinsatzgruppenEtLesJuifs

    Vincent Reynouard - Les Einsatzgruppen partie 4 : Juges et historiens pris en flagrant délit de mensonges - Einsatzgruppen part 4 : Lying Judges and Historians Caught Red-Handed
    https://archive.org/details/Vincent...gesEtHistoriensPrisEnFlagrantDelitDeMensonges

    Vincent Reynouard - Plaidoyer pour les Einsatzgruppen - Shoah par Balle - Plea for the Einsatzgruppen - The Holocaust by the bullets
    https://archive.org/details/Vincent...satzgruppenShoahParBallePleaForTheEinsatzgrup

    More here...
    https://archive.org/search.php?query=Vincent+Reynouard+

    Full text of "The Einsatzgruppen"
    https://archive.org/stream/EinsatzgruppenCarloMattogno/EinsatzgruppenCarloMattogno_djvu.txt

    Review: Stalin’s War: A New History of World War II
    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2021/08/david-gordon/review-stalins-war-a-new-history-of-world-war-ii/
     
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    I'm just as curious as to why so many people are unable to grasp the reality that the Allies with the help of Hollywood created a propaganda powerhouse that endures even today in the slanderous demonization of the Germans.
    Someone who thinks that only the "other side" used atrocity propaganda is as hopelessly naive as he is gullible.

    I suppose there is a need to feel especially virtuous in people who regurgitate fictitious anti German slander.
    After all, everybody needs someone they can put down so they can feel more virtuous and the Germans need to be the villains so that "We" seem more virtuous.

    Hollywood's success in making the Germans out to be robotic sadists has caught on so that the market is saturated with fictitious and melodramatic Holocaust hogwash. (1)

    Looking at the WW 2 era objectively and honestly is far from dismissing or trivializing it.
    It is far more disrespectful to the millions who died to lie about the events surrounding their death and unjustly slander them after their death.




    (1). "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html

    EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war.

    No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out.

    Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED

    Since about 150,000 Jews served in Germany's WW 2 military, isn't it at least possible that some of the Einsatzgruppen members were Jewish?

    The fact that Jews could serve in Ger

    Thanks,many's WW 2 military and rise to the highest ranks with Hitler's full knowledge and approval debunks the myth of a genocidal German agenda.

    That doesn't mean people who were either real or perceived threats to the state weren't executed or that many did not die of disease and shortages of food and medical supplies
    The Red Cross blamed the Allies for destroying civilian supply lines and thousands died of Typhus after the Allies took control of the camps,
     
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    Vincent Reynouard, is a well known Holocaust denier. :(
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-63647612
     
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    So what?

    The important thing is whether he is telling the truth and since no one can refute his facts, the Holocaust Industry has him locked up for a year and fined 10,000 Euros.

    The only lesson that holocaustians have learned from the Holocaust is how to emulate totalitarianism.

    What hypocrisy...
     
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    He's not telling the truth but lies.
    The court refuted his lies, otherwise he couldn't have been punished.
    :)
     
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    Lawyers are not specialized historians or forensic scientists and therefore are entirely unqualified to render an informed opinion.

    How can you hope to get justice on a topic like the Holocaust in a country where "Holocaust denial" is a crime ?

    Of course he was punished for speaking truth to power.

    Thanks,
     
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    They don't have to be. :)
    They have experts on certain topics, that the common man usually doesn't know about.

    HC denial is a crime because it insults the memory of the deceased.
    Implicitly, HC deniers say that the victims never existed. :(

    Nope, he's punished because he's a stubborn, fact-resistant moron.
     
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    Why? Why does he need to look at your "info" when you ignore replies!? You basically dump up a wall of videos with no analysis and your ONLY "rebuttal" (when it is rarely provided!) is to point somebody to a page of cut and paste spam.
     

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