A foreshadowing of things to come.

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We still have our kooks, the difference is they are not organised and get literally no lip service from the party.

    They do however tend to do a whole lot more damage per individual.
     
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    Fentanyl with THC? That's a new one on me. Just goes to show how sick and evil marijuana prohibition is.
     
  3. garyd

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    Lloyd had fentanyl, meth and covid in his system some stuff is just such bad juju that it needs to be illegal. You violate the law you go to jail you don't like the law the legislature is where you go to change it not the cops or the judiciary.
     
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    So you deny your support for the totalitarian green new deal and the absurd Medicare for all?
     
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    Oh, so you were just trying to change the subject because you know marijuana prohibition is nothing but vicious, evil tyranny. That fits.
    But that would not include opiates like fentanyl, or amphetamines, or marijuana, which in LEGAL, medically accurate doses are less harmful than alcohol.
    Like the people who helped slaves escape the antebellum South, and Jews escape the Nazis? So your position is that vicious, evil tyrannies like marijuana prohibition, slavery, and genocide are rightful as long as they are prescribed by law. Thought so.
    Except... you're not allowed to vote.
    By your vicious, evil, and despicable "logic," the USA should never have rebelled against British rule.
     
  6. quiller

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    One of the more prolific mass murderers in American history got his start in my general area, and after he confessed to almost every homicide ever done since the Pilgrims landed, the lawyers for Henry Lee Lucas managed to get scheduled executions delayed and finally thwarted when that gleeful killer finally died in prison. He died in the can but got away clean escaping the Big Needle.

    You may think that an evasion but it's my real-world, local-area reason why we believe in capital punishment ALMOST as much as we believe Democrats are so crooked that monsters can escape true justice.
     
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    Ah, you mean the medicare for all that is so "absurd" that almost all advanced democratic countries have it, and it gets better health results than the private US system at a fraction of the cost....?
     
  8. quiller

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    And you took yourself so seriously you condescended to him WHY?
     
  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Take a guess. How many years do you think you'll be entertaining the fever swamp fantasy of actual, provable charges being brought against the Clinton's?
     
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    First I disagree with almost everything you just said. First you do get to vote. Your current representative doesn't support your right to live your life in an effing haze find one that will and support him. Two fentanyl is illegal because even in proscribed doses it can kill your ass and in terms of addictive power it makes booze and alcohol seem like butterflies. Oxycodone and other opiates are legal in proscribed doses which still leaves them well above guns on the list of killers of Americans by a factor of nearly six and a half.
    Three fighting cops because you don't like certain laws is like jumping out of an airplane at 20k feet because you don't like the constraints if gravity.
     
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  11. quiller

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    Every case had different circumstances making an intelligent commonly-acceptible solution impossible.
     
  12. quiller

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    I am entitled to my dream just as much as the left thinks they are entitled to other people's money. And as sure as God make pickpockets and other tax collectors, they sure as hell do!

    I'll give up mine "fantasy" if the left can only stop nominating candidates who scream how bad our economy is and yet ALSO say they want to hike taxes once elected. "Hi there---we're gonna punish those least able to PAY those taxes!"

    Assuming Joe stays awake long enough to read the TelePrompter.
     
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    A commonly accepted solution is impossible because some people don't accept other people having rights to liberty and pursuit of happiness.
     
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    Yes, because I am right and you are wrong.
    Right, because I don't live in the USA, let alone in a poor black area where voting access is suppressed even for people who have not had their rights to vote stripped from them by vicious, tyrannical and evil drug prohibition laws that they consequently have no legal recourse to reform.
    You mean my rights to liberty and pursuit of happiness in ways you don't approve of...?
    If I don't live in a poor black area in the USA, and have not been stripped of my right to vote by vicious, evil and tyrannical drug prohibition laws...
    False. Fentanyl is used routinely in medicine because an effective does is very, very small and thus cheap, and because it is not particularly addictive, certainly not compared to legal drugs like nicotine.
    Because they are NOT LEGAL unless prescribed by a licensed practitioner, and self-administered doses are therefore unknown -- but they are still far below your preferred legal drugs, alcohol and tobacco, in killing Americans....
    So, you are saying the American Founders were idiots because you hate the idea of anyone else but you having a right to liberty or pursuit of happiness. That's what I thought: you prefer tyranny to liberty, injustice to justice, evil to good. You literally think evil is better than good, and you want evil to win and good to lose.
     
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    Including the unborn. They become voters pursuing happiness as well. Nature works that way. Get busy, get baby.
     
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    Yoda says the irony is strong here. But then again, Yoda was born.
     
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    What are you trying to say, here? That any woman who suffers a miscarriage should be charged with manslaughter?
     
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    personal attack reported to moderator. Let them deal with you.
     
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    In specific answer to that specific issue, not only no but hell no. Miscarriage is never manslaughter. The surrounding circumstance COULD be but usually are not. (Car accident, domestic violence, etc.)
     
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    Why would you want stupid people voting?
     
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    Sorry no they aren't damn few people actually smoke any more and the booze industry is collapsing as marijuana takes off. And if you don't live here you don't have a problem.
     
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    Sorry, yes they are.
    Because smoking killed the smokers. See how that works?
    It still does orders of magnitude more harm than weed.
    That's like saying if you didn't live in the USSR you didn't have a problem with the USSR. Why not just admit that you know you have been proved objectively wrong?
     
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    Point is today 80 k is more than alcohol kills not talking about 30 years ago. By the way don't get caught selling drugs in Singapore. Last I heard they execute drug dealers.
     
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    If a fetus is a separate human being with rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, every miscarriage should be investigated as a presumed manslaughter. Sorry to prove your beliefs objectively false.
     
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    So you agree drug prohibition is killing 80K/yr?
     

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