Louisville PD declares ‘state of emergency’ in anticipation of Breonna Taylor decision

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  1. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am 100% pro-police, and 100% against bad cops.

    If you have a precinct with 10 good cops, and 2 bad cops, and the 10 refuse to out the 2, you have 12 bad cops.

    Exactly.

    Civil forfeiture and no knock warrants must be destroyed. They are both incredibly unconstitutional.
     
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    And lost a lot of evidence, and allowed for fortification of the “bad guys” which has cost officers their lives.

    No knocks are great, and should stick around for the long term.

    The vast majority of the time, they go off without incident.
     
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    JET3534 Well-Known Member

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    I believe the Breonna Taylor raid was conducted by 3 plainclothes officers.
     
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    They should have never been allowed. They violate a major principle of govt and privacy . Uh, so the drugs don't get flushed. And the cops can go fishing.

    Warrants used to be very specific for a reason. Show me the man and people like Mr. Stalin will show the crime.
     
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    They do not violate anything, they are very useful and should stay.

    They almost always go very well.
     
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    Tough to arrest someone when they destroy all the evidence.
     
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    Exactly lol.

    Without a no knock warrant you might as well just not go in some cases. Evidence will be gone.
     
  9. ButterBalls

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    And you believe they didn't yell police coming thru the door?
     
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    We haven't heard from any of the officers involved until now:
     
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    So if 3 dudes yelling police with no police uniforms kick my door in I shouldn't think about defending myself because they may or may not be police. Yep. Makes sense.
     
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    Tough to live when you are the subject of a home invasion.
     
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    And justice used to hang from the highest tree branch in front of court houses too.... Just a reality check from the facts of history....
     
  14. drluggit

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    And the peddlers of death who sell poison to folks for a living aren't? In your opinion then, drug dealers shouldn't be brought to justice for their criminality?
     
  15. Pollycy

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    Not sure exactly what you're getting at, Mello. My guess (because I wasn't actually THERE) is that at some point in the event, the police made it pretty crystal-clear that they were the police, whether they "knocked" or not. If they didn't make an effort to identify themselves, then YES, it would have been permissible for the woman or her boyfriend to defend themselves (this varies from state to state).

    My guess (only a guess) is that the cops busted in the door, shouting "Louisville Police! Get down on the floor with your hands where we can see them!"... or words to that effect. If the police did that, and afterwards 'boyfriend' fired at them anyway, it changes things considerably....
     
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    Do you normally walk around your home with a gun on you just in case strangers kick your door in? Severely doubt it. But you know who does that? Drug dealers!!! Cops were shot at before they even got in and returned fire. Breonna was NO ANGEL. She was dirty. The fact she got hit in the cross fire was the tragedy. But If she was alive she’d be in prison right now for drug trafficking.
     
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    Hey you could convince me on No Knock Warrants but I would like to see some real world modeling. In other words if there are innocents in or around the area, does announcing and surrounding bring more potential harm to the innocent? The whole point is to enter and grab before the violence can begin, obviously it doesn't always happen that way. If they announce and surround with a houseful of kids, are the kids now in harms way due to this, the Koresh compound killed a bunch where a no knock wouldn't have. I agree we need to look at it in way more detail and maybe put severe restrictions on it.
     
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    Filling the prisons with people who engage in the same black market created by legislation, just like the CIA who engages in that black market, is incredibly irrational and immoral. The chickens are coming home to roost.
     
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    I thought I had read they didn’t identify, but it looks like I may have been mistaken
     
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    So now they weren't wearing standard issue vests either, come on, are we going to purposely ignore the obvious :roll:
     
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    In fairness to you, it's still pretty much up in the air. Reportedly, the police did identify themselves prior to busting in the place, but their individual testimonies about how they announced their identities varies among themselves. :confusion:

    We'll find out later, and, my guess is that no matter what the Grand Jury finds, all hell will break loose anyway, because these radical mobs always seem to 'default' to that anarchic behavior before any other. It's what we've seen clearly, in every situation, all during 2020....
     
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    You haven't addressed what I posted to your fallacious claim that the police shot first.
     
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    We don't know for a fact they were unidentified at this point the grand jury is still out and the faxt remains the criminal they were looking for fired first. His many times do you guys have to he cautioned to wait until all the evidence is in and investigations completed.
     
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    Any destruction or attempt to destroy would be called obstruction of justice. A felony under law.
     
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    And HE SHOT FIRST as opposed to the fallacious claim otherwise that I responded to.
     

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