Mentioning George Soros Is 'Verboten' On FOX

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  1. crank

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    It's not Trumpers who spend every waking moment thinking about race.
     
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    You're talking about Republicans, and guys like Koch that buy them. There are dems in there, as well, but you need to put Reagan under a microscope.

    Soros isn't part of that group.

    There is a longer discussion to be had about how things play out, but the first step is getting beyond comic book analysis.
     
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    Unlikely to be any Conservatives involved. This is about the Welfare State and the Progressive elite.
     
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    What is likely is that you have no knowledge whatsoever about this.

    While Koch doesn't call himself a Bircher, that's pretty much what he is. Do you know what a Bircher is? He has a loose alliance of rich guys, like Addelson that has funded an army of propagandists, lobbyists, etc through a few dozen organisations. You are clearly one of they millions they brainwashed.

    They got into a fight a couple years back over voter rolls, with the Republican party, and they could have won easily. But they were breaking their first rule of working from the shadows, and it was revealing their real agenda. They want total control of the country.

    There are other power groups, and I can talk about them, but I have to laugh when you refer one of the handful of groups with the most power as Progressive. They are regressive to the extreme.

    One of the places you should start is with Mike Lofgren's book, How the Republicans went Crazy. He is a Republican, was working in Congress, and had a front row seat.

    One of the thing about power, sometimes it doesn't fall into the L/R spectrum. It can simply be about getting power.


    https://www.amazon.com/Party-Over-R...600948614&sprefix=mike+lofgren,aps,178&sr=8-1
     
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    On the contrary, I'm watching the (Western) world stage. This crap is happening EVERYWHERE, it does not arise out of the petty local politics of America. The drive to disable the masses via the Welfare State has happened across all major Western economies.
     
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    Sometimes I have trouble finding a way to connect some sense of reality to the fantasy world the Right has created.

    Right now, for me, it's not yet 4AM, and that's just too ridiculous to bother with.

    But, income inequality is rising, but some countries have not let it get parasitic the way we have..
     
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    Before Charles and David, there was the father. Who was the principal financier of the John Birch Society.
     
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    Also principal sadist and brainwasher.
     
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    The Rothschilds, hummmmm.....

    Next, you’ll be quoting from the Chronicles of the Learned Elders of Zion.

    I’m sorry, but you’ve posted so much of this obvious Russian propoganda...........
     
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    Exactly! In the US George Soros has the exclusive power to elect district attorneys. I wish we have a democracy where Americans voters could decide who will be a district attorney. But hey - it it was reported by Russia Today (RT), funded by the Russian government - then it must be true.
     
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    The power in our elections, is in the hands of those who give the most money towards a candidates campaign. You know this, but your intent is to demonize RT for revealing that which is purposely being kept hidden by our liberal MSM. It's a pity we have to resort to foreign newspapers to know what's going on in our own country.

    George Soros heavily supports over 150 liberal organizations in the US, and it's these organizations that give money to support the liberal candidates of his choosing for District Attorney.


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    The media's bought
    and on their side.

    So they can hide, and not abide
    to doing what they know is right.

    So that the people of this land

    will end up with their liberal stand - Jeannette
     
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    Oh well, I guess when discussions eludes one then why not the oxymoron's. :roll:
     
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    So Soros does not have the exclusive power to elect district attorneys, only has right to donate money the same as every rich or not so rich American can do? Soros is the only one rich American? What about billionaire Trump supporters – they were to stupid or too cheap to donate money the same as Soros did?

    As to RT – it is TV station supported by the Russian government – do you think they purpose is to spread the truth?
     
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    It's not the money, it's the ideology Soros espouses and his means of achieving it. If he is indifferent towards human lives in order to achieve the one world government he desires, then his inhumanity makes him psychologically unfit to decide what is best for mankind. It makes him no different than Lenin, Stalin and Hitler. They too were ideologues.

    Of course RT's going to spread the truth if it benefits them - which it does whenever they reveal things that the MSM hides. Anyway most of my news comes from other foreign sources, since they are not as cautious about what they write as RT and Sputnik. What the Russian sites do, is basically write positive things about their own nation so as to undo the demonizing and lies from the MSM.

    Navalny is a perfect example of our lies in our media. He's presented as an opposition threat to Vladimir Putin when his following is about 2%. The communist and nationalist opposition leaders have a much greater following. Also what the MSM does not mention, is that many of Navalny's followers are 'supremacists' (Nazis) who want Moscow to stop supporting the Caucasus and to kick them out.

    This would fit into Washington's plans of breaking up the Federation, which is now illegal with Russia's new constitution. So Navalny is really a traitor and should be in jail - or at least I think so.
     
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    Only person who does not know who Lenin, Stalin and Hitler were can say that Soros is like them. I will not argue about it, the same I will argue with a person who will insist that Little Red Riding Hood story is based on Hillary Clinton life.




    Agree - the only problem is to decide when RT and Sputnik are telling the truth and when they spread disinformation.




    You just showed the proof how effective Russian propaganda is. What kind of stupid dictators will want to poison an opposition leader who has only 2% of followings? What kind of stupid dictator will want to kill opposition journalists if he thinks he will win election?
    BTW - I am also reading news in from the foreign sources.
    Here some info:
    Navalny's channel: 1.98M subscribers, Russia population: 144.5 million
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxTPTFbIbCWfTR9I2-5SeQ
    As to Navalny - I recommend this one - there also English translation (over 11 million views)


    or this one - _over 13 million views)


    It is your own sentence or you are just quoting a famous KGB officer - Vladimir Putin?
     
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    Just about any thread the even mentions it puts the lie to your claim.

    Race baiting is the core of Trump’s political message. Deeply embedded in his Archie Bunker act.

    We’ll see plenty of it tonight.

    He’ll default to trying to scare June Cleaver, and describe the hoards of “thugs” (the new N word) are going to invade the sticks to rape the white women.
     
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    Oxymoron? Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word.

    And using the Rothchilds in the way that you did is a classic Russian anti semitic play. They used it in Ukraine too. Scaring the uninformed with the old shibboleth of international Jewery.

    Your comments about Yukos are also right out of Moscow’s mouth.
     
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    She keeps repeating that.

    Russia deserves the credit it gets for ruining itself, and then doing it some more with Putin. Scapegoating Jews is what Hitler did, it's not something I would tolerate if I were a Mod.
     
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    My post had to do with the Economist as being a source of information about Russia. Especially information about Vladimir Putin since it is owned by the Rothchild's and Putin is a thorn in his side. Here are some bits that confirms my suspicions:
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    The Sunday Times can identify Lord (Jacob) Rothschild as the secret holder of the large stake in Yukos that was previously controlled by Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the oil company’s chairman.

    Khodorkovsky, reputed to be Russia’s richest man, was last week arrested by Russian prosecutors on charges of fraud and tax evasion. His imprisonment has triggered a trustee agreement he put in place with Rothschild a few months ago.

    Rothschild, 67, now controls the voting rights on a stake in Yukos worth almost £8 billion. This places him at the centre of a dispute with the Russian state.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rothschild-is-the-new-power-behind-yukos-9wtmr3d90nz
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    Russian authorities Thursday froze billions of dollars of shares held by Mr. Khodorkovsky and his top lieutenants in Yukos — throwing control of the country’s largest oil company into limbo and causing frenzied selling on financial markets.

    Russian prosecutors said owners of the shares are still entitled to dividends and retain voting rights, but can no longer sell their stakes.

    They said the freeze was necessary as collateral for the $1 billion that Mr. Khodorkovsky and his associates are accused of misappropriating during the 1990s.

    http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/11/khodorkovsky-passed-yukos-shares-to-rothschild-bank/
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    ExxonMobil, the world's largest oil company, is expected to unveil a multi-billion dollar investment in Russia as the oil companies Yukos and Sibneft finalise their long-awaited merger today.

    Analysts expect ExxonMobil will pay about $20bn for around 25 per cent of the newly merged company, which will be known as YukosSibneft, although there was speculation last night that the US oil giant could be considering taking a stake as high as 60 per cent.

    Yukos and Sibneft, controlled respectively by the Russian oligarchs Mikhail Khodorkovsky and Roman Abramovich, are expected to announce their merger complete today.

    www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/exxonmobil-set-to-invest-in-yukos-89571.html

     
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    Tom Fitz - Please tell me now, what comments did I say about Yukos came right out of Moscow's mouth?
     
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    1) Perhaps you should ask a Rightist to explain it all for you. You won't get any help from me .. I'm further Left than most Leftists here.

    2) You mean you can't argue against it, because you know it's true.

    3) It's happening EVERYWHERE. Pretending otherwise just makes you look silly.
     
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    ~ If you are correct there will be some big fireworks going off in a few places. The FBI will likely be the first. I suspect China will be the second . Network "news" media will likely implode . :eyepopping:
     
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    What I wonder about is how the left allows Soros to spend money influencing USA Elections and condemn Russia for doing the same?
     
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    If it was not my own sentence, I would not have said the following:


    I would have been a lot more definite than just saying 'I think so'. I couldn't though because I'm not 100% sure I'm right about the new Russian Constitution and I wouldn't want to say something that is not factual. If it turned out that I was wrong, then I would have to apologize to retain credibility.
     
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    [​IMG]

    The things Trump has done has accelerated the process. It's also worth mentioning there's a reason they start the chart in 1980. Which American became president in that year...

    Or to put it a little differently:

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