There is literally no reason to vote for Trump

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    The economy? Trump inherited that, many graphs show a economic rebound begin in 2012. Trump has Obama to thank for that growth in 2017.

    Healthcare? In bis 3-1/2 term as president, Trump has only rolled back the individual mandate. Nothing else, let alone a replacement.

    Immigration? Illegal entry rose in 2017 under Trumps watch, with miles of a wall yet to build.

    Law and order? Trump is not a law and order president, one can take a look at how he incited violence back in 2016.

    Peace deal? The so-called peace deal left out the Palestines, which actually could call for heightened tension in the Middle East.

    Environment? Aside from 700 plus EPA. researchers and scientists resigning in his first year, Flint is still in shambles. Trump could habe dine something about that.

    There is literally no reason why Trump should get a single vote in November. The first debate was another reason why. Such a volcanic temperament is not at all fit for the highest office in the land. Period. In his first term, Trump had a higher turnover rate in his administration than the Bush Jr and Obama administrations combined. If a Trump supporter attempts to use the economy as a reason, remind them that the stock market began making a slow, steady but continuous rebound starting in 2012 after coming out of the Great Recession.

    At this point, the only reason one votes for Trump is either out of spite for the rest of the country, or they truly cannot understand what monster they created because one valid reason does not exist.
     
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    I have one compelling reason. Joe Biden.
     
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    People who believe Communism has worked out for its subjects will agree with you. Families of the 10's of millions of victims of genocidal Communists will disagree. You may have a shot since most of the people who would disagree are dead.
     
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    Everything you list is spot-on, but you have to remember, those who support Trump do so under the spell of demagoguery; facts, science, and logic be damned. You cannot reason with them in general. All they care about is having someone soothe their fears and anxiety about perceived enemies, not real ones because you know, the real ones are not cardboard cut-outs like the ones they fabricate in their echo chambers.
     
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    Why do you right wingers keep ranting about communism nobody wants that ????
     
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    First president in my lifetime (since LBJ) no new wars
     
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    I thought the age minimum here was 18.
     
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    Facts hurt?
     
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    If you have never heard the term “useful idiot” it was the attitude held by Vladimir Lenin towards communist sympathizers in the West (America). While Lenin and the Soviets held them in utter contempt they also viewed them as tools for dispensing communist propaganda to other countries, thus infecting foreign cultures with their totalitarian tripe. After their mission was complete, they were no longer “useful.”

    Yuri Besmenov had a slightly different meaning for the term. He referred to the useful idiots as those who bought into the communists divide and conquer campaign.
     
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    One thing I learned watching the helicopter fly from Bethesda to the White House was there are an awful lot of wooded areas between the two. In that part of our country I pre conceived it being largely urban yet they flew over some very heavily wooded areas with no visible structures of any kind.
     
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    Lets just usher back in the global war mongers who like to kill/mame/displace brown people by the millions on the other side of the planet, keeping bankers and defense contractors and their own coffers flush with freshly printed money
     
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    You have not mentioned any.

    Of course, your premise depends on how you define "starting a war", which technically speaking, Trump did participate in when he bombed Syria as retaliation for gassing its citizens.
     
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    We where already in Syria or did one forget?
     
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    Like I said, it depends on how you want to define "starting a war". Roosevelt was the last one in 1941 to make an actual declaration of war. The rest don't fall under that definition.
     
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    Changing the goal posts now? We have been doing airstrikes in your example of Syria since 2014
     
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    I never changed them. I asked you how you define starting a war. You never provided the answer.

    If you want to define it as, "which president never used the military for aggression?", then the last president to do so was Gerald Ford.
     
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    The fact liberals can't make a compelling case to vote for Biden is reason enough to vote for President Trump...
     
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    No one, even Biden, id vouching for a communist n nation. There is a clear difference between socialism and communism. Btw, if you hate socialism, forfeit your social security . That is s socialist policy.

    But no one running for office id vouching got communism, this is beyond untrue.
     
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    Investing in green energy jobs, doing something about healthcare, fixing the budget deficit after the tax cuts that failed to produce long lasting economic growth cost the country $984 billion, listing Biden as a reason is like saying tylenol is bad for headaches.
     
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    Its long been debunked, like how Biden supporting the nationwide violence has been debunked.

    Funny enough, if you look at history, the economy has always benefitted under a democratic president. So if your vote is based on the economy, history says Trump is the wrong pick.
     
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    Arming the Saudis and agitating North Korea is the perfect recipe for war. It hasn’t produced anything yet, just wait until this so called peace deal is in effect:?
     
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    You are already in every country so quite hard to start a war going by your definition. US Foreign Policy does not change whoever is President
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    People who actually put what Trump says aside for a moment, and actually dig into the details of Biden's agenda find reasons to vote for him.
     
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    Thread win in one.
     
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    Lol...ah, the irony of a trump supporter saying that.
     
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