There is literally no reason to vote for Trump

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I'm to the right of you on economics. I'm to the right of Trump on economics. Most of my policy criticisms against him have involved coming from the economic right. I can, and have, gone into great detail regarding the failures of Communism. Mercantilism is no better, and it is the original enemy of capitalism. I have no reason to vote for Trump.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the economy would have tanked after he was inaugurated, you would have blamed him. But you simultaneously want to give him zero credit for continuing growth.

    That was the biggest flaw in the socialized scheme put forward by the left. Forced participation in order to subsidize people who can't pay. Collectivism over individualism. I don't know of a single person that opposes a government group plan for people who desire insurance so long as it stands on it's own.

    Illegal immigration always rises when the economy here is good. Trump provided additional funding to border patrol and built the wall while simultaneously renegotiating trade agreements with Mexico resulting in net revenue for the US. Exactly want he said he would do when he campaigned.

    As opposed to the left who allows total anarchy in the streets, I, along with the police unions give the Law and Order President mark to Trump.

    Not one, but two nobel peace prizes. Violence in the Middle East has been at a decades long low, and the US is actively disengaging from playing the world police.

    I have no idea why people resign, but if it has to do with who is president, they probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. Flint... that's a local issue, not federal.

    Your opinion, based on half truths.

    blah blah blah "i think my opinion is undisputed facts and everybody else is stupid" blah blah blah.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    lol

    Anybody that doesn't agree with the left must be this.

    What non-sense, over inflated egotistical drivel is this?
     
  4. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    I'm also right wing on economics but to Trump supporters, anyone who criticizes Trump must be left wing. I don't hate Trump because he is right wing, I hate Trump because of his disgusting character.
     
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    It's funny how most Lefty's are pro war when a Democrat is in charge not so much when a republican
     
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    Nope. Not just the "left"....let me introduce you to The Lincoln Project, funded by Republican Never Trumpers.
     
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    There's two:
    Biden, and Harris only a heartbeat away.
     
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    I ignore what all politicians say and concentrate on what they do. Trump has been involved in a lot of doing and Biden has been involved in a lot of saying. Half a century with a lot of words and no results.
     
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  9. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny you mention "spite" as a reason. That is the reason 90% of democrats are voting for Biden, because of Trump hate. Go ahead and ask some of them what they like the most about Biden's platform and i bet most of them won't be able to name one damn thing!
     
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    He also wanted better relations with Russia as did Reagan, Ike and Nixon, but he was smeared at a Putin stooge by the war party and their allies in the media. And Biden will continues Obama's and Clinton's warmongering. Not that I will vote for Trump because he is awful in many respects. But the democrats are a greater threat. They make Dr. Stangelove and Jack T. Ripper look like Gandhi.
     
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    A compelling reason: Democrats and those on the left seem to have gone literally insane. I don't know if Trump has broke them, and therefore it's his fault, or if wokeism was going to drive them crazy eventually anyway, but I'm not going to support turning the USA into CHAZ. At the beginning of the year I thought Trump had only a small chance of winning because of demographics, then the "Summer of George' happened and the left just went Antifa and BLM crazy. No thanks. Now, they intend to add Puerto Rico and DC as states and pack the Supreme Court, all so they'll never be told "no" again. Now assuming Trump can get enough votes to beat Democratic election fraud, it will be because normal people won't want to live in Wokesville.
     
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    The left fought the success of the President in any way they could to make sure this didn't result in a new movement and a restrengthening of the republican party. They did this at the expense of the American people and at the cost of changing their own positions to further to the radical left. It is surprising he succeeded at anything at all considering the massive opposition he had.
     
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    Wasn’t spite the reason to vote for Trump in the first place? Spite toward Obama, although to this day, Trump people haven’t come ip with a valid reason for hating the man?

    The only people here hating are people like Trump feel the need to use bullying tactics? If you had a valid point to make, you wouldn’t have to tty selling conspiracies and exaggerate to people.
     
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    I haven't found a reason to vote for either of them yet.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    You really think Biden would turn the USA into CHAZ? Its already public knowledge that Biden doesn’t support the violence.
     
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    Tell that to the open socialists in Congress like Occasional-Cortex. Or Harris, who is the single most liberal Senator. Or Bernie, who at least has the decency to honestly label himself a socialist. Since Castro, the term has increasingly embraced and then was subsumed by communism. To me there's no difference except the packaging.
     
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    I wouldn't know. I voted for Obama and Trump, but thanks for stereo-typing me.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    This would be restrengthening the Republican Party in the wrong way. Trump has done one or two EOs in his time to push a agenda. I remember when we were getting mad at Obama for doing the same exact thing.
     
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    Republicans are the ones entangled in war. Bush with Iraq, Reagan with the Cold War, history is littered with Republicans being tied to war.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    Given 95% of what I wrote can be found with a simple google search, to claim it is opinion, minus the thread title, is fooling oneself. The problem with having the support of a police union is it begins yo shape a politician’s agenda, and you don’t get real police reform. That said, getting endorsements from police unions isn’t necessarily a good thing.

    2017 was Obama’s last fiscal year, and the tax cuts were fiscally reckless. Looking at what it did to the deficit backs up that statement. To correct this, such legislation needs to be reversed. To keep from blowing up the deficit even more. What also qualifies as reckless is turning back regulation simply to cut it, without thoroughly reviewing what it is. This was an inherent problem with Trumps deregulation push.
     
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    Campaigners say lotsa things, y'all. Biden rarely stops talking, and it's always claiming he was the guy who.... taking undeserved credit for a lackluster career on his doomed THIRD run for the White House.

    Biden finished FIFTH against Hillary Clinton in 2008. Kamala Harris dropped out of the running on her own. But the party rigged it for Joe because it was his turn, just like before him it was vile Hillary Clinton's.

    Now the party of 1700s slave owner Andrew Jackson and racists like Nathan Bedford Forrest are telling us that Joe Biden --- friend to open racists early in his career --- will impartially treat black America.

    This claim is not supported by Biden's own history, as other posters have clearly demonstrated here.

    That's the party that allowed violence to cause more than $2 trillion in damages, and multiple deaths and countless injuries. That's the party which has ruled every major city for decades but blames Republicans for trash piled up in the streets like Manhattan or Baltimore or San Fran Shi*hole.

    That's the Democrats. The ones who let Antifa burn America and never said a word against it until pollsters said it looked bad. The party which rigs elections for favored candidates however old and fading and beyond their prime as Joe Biden.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    I’m talking about the people who bought into the tripe that was the Birther movement, started by Trump. Not all conservatives as a whole. Such cluelessness leads to dangerous results at the ballot box.
     
  23. jcarlilesiu

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    LOL

    Dude. You take a story, apply spin that you created in your head, and then claim that your created outcome is fact.

    Good lord. You can't seriously not understand the difference.

    Well, not when Trump gets the endorsement. Amiright? If it was Biden, you would have a different opinion and be touting it's importance.

    Your opinions and perceptions are so absolutely one sided and easily manipulated by your political agenda, it's almost unbelievable that you can't see it. Maybe you can't. Blinded by partisanship is a real thing.
     
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    Your history is flawed.

    WWI - Wilson (D)
    WWII - Roosevelt (D)
    Korea - Truman (D)
    Vietnam - technically started by Eisenhower (R), expanded by JFK (D), massively expanded by LBJ (D) ended by a Republican. Yeah, that Republican.

    Say, do you even know the difference between a Cold War and a shooting one? Asking for a friend.
     
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  25. Balto

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    This is a bit ironic of a post when Trump hasn’t denounced David Duke. Not all states ruled by Democrats are poorly run. Take, for instance, the state of Washington. Democratic across the noard, yet a good amount of notable legislation. The legalization of pot leads to a boost in revenue for the state. Its one of the few states that allows assisted suicide for the terminally ill.
     

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