Eric Trump Says Nonexistent COVID-19 Vaccine His Dad 'Took' Worked Really 'Well'

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  1. CenterField

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    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/eric-trump-nonexistent-covid-vaccine-donald-trump-233806054.html

    OK, we are in the full-blown domain of "alternative facts."

    So now Eric Trump says that his dad took a vaccine???

    I mean, we know that Eric is not the brightest of bulbs...

    Sure, predictably people here will say "fake news" because it's been reported by the HuffPo. But the original story comes from ABC News' "This Week" and came directly from Eric's voice, so you guys can "shoot the messenger" but it won't make it any less true that Eric did say it. The HuffPo merely reported on it and I bumped into the article through the Yahoo aggregator (I generally don't go out of my way to consult the HuffPo, which I consider to be a biased source). Anyway, let's not focus on who brought our attention to it, but rather on the content of what Eric *did* say.

    Is he just dumb and unsophisticated? Or is this politically intended to create in the minds of more naïve voters, the impression that there is a vaccine?
     
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    At this point, I think the Trumps just love that anybody is talking about them. They will say or do anything that creates that end.
     
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    ~ Oops ! Sounds like Eric got hold of some Joe Biden Pills . Last week he apparently "confessed" to being part of the LBGT crowd. [​IMG]´
    Oh well ... all part of the show called 'media news' .
     
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    I've heard him speak a number of times I didn't imagine him to be dumb. But he does kinda seems like one of those people who presumes to speak as if they are an expert on everything and probably isn't ever called on it thus creating a lack of demand for needing to have 100% of the facts before commenting on them. But then that's an ailment afflicting pretty much every politico.
     
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    So that's just the show called media news? He is on tape saying it, you know? Out of his own mouth. Are you denying it?

    As for the idea that Joe Biden is demented and can only perform in debates with the help of dementia drugs, I've asked this already of another poster here, who had no answer and then immediately put me on Ignore, LOL (I hope you don't do the same, haha): pray tell, what exactly are the medications and doses (brand or chemical names, please) that in your opinion can reverse dementia for a couple of hours so that people perform in a debate? FYI, dementia drugs have a very small effect on dementia. They don't *reverse* anything, they just delay by a little, the progressive worsening of the disease. That is, patients decline a bit slower than they would otherwise decline without the medications, but it's not that the symptoms get any better. This idea that Joe would be pumped full of dementia drugs and suddenly would perform very sharply in these debates, is a partisan talking point issued by people who have no clue whatsoever about the effectiveness of dementia drugs and about how dementia is treated.

    Trying to sell the idea that Biden is demented has no traction. It just looks ridiculous, because people can see him performing decently in debates (the last one, and the one against Bernie Sanders).

    It's like Trump now insisting again with Hillary's emails. Who the hell do they thing will suddenly not vote for Biden and will vote for Trump, because something about Hillary Clinton comes up? It's a dead horse and Trump keeps beating it. Whoever four years later is still preoccupied with Hillary's emails, is already a Trump voter. This won't change any votes. If that's the October surprise Trump thinks he can bring up, he is in for a November surprise... The Dem candidate is Biden, not Clinton, LOL. Trump won't let go of this bone. He is obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Nobody else is.
     
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    I certainly don't know what medication the president took, but are you seriously asserting that if it hasn't been approved it doesn't exist?
     
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    No vaccine to treat COVID exists. Vaccines are preventative and are not used to treat an infection.
     
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    ~ Biden is likely showing the cognitive signs of aging - perhaps the beginnings of senility. I believe most of his brain fog is the result of his surgery - not dementia. That will come later. We all get dementia if we live long enough. Older people do seem to do a little better on caffeine / amphetamines - but only temporarily. Maybe Joe gets juiced up on Maxwell House ? [​IMG] ( "Good to the last drop ... " )
    The only thing I hear/read about what may prevent dementia is low dose lithium. The research started in Texas where there is very high levels of lithium in the water. Almost no Alzheimer's and very low suicide rate. It appears it may also have some anti-aging benefits . Will be something to watch.

    The network media is against Trump - for whatever reason. They are not a reliable source and mostly present opinion and conjecture - always one-sided. I look for information - not news. News today is hype. Not healthy.
    Eric Trump goofed. So what ? Next the reports from "anonymous source close to the family" will come out with some nonsense about drug abuse or mental retardation - whatever feeds the hate.
    Trump is a character but is doing a good job for the U.S. Sadly he has little help. He is for the people. Most politicians are for the power of party - both democrats and republicans. Biden is a career political hack that "goes along to get along". If elected we will see the AOC plan come into play. I don't want to see the grandkids grow up in that kind of America. I don't want to see China actually become world superpower .
     
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    ~ Oops ! Sounds like Eric got hold of some Joe Biden Pills. Last week he apparently "confessed" to being part of the LBGT crowd. [​IMG]´
    Oh well ... all part of the show called 'media news' .

    Or maybe....

    After all, he does hunt the "Big Game" and here in Baltimore a bar called the "Pink Hippopotamus" was once well-known
     
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    No. I never said that. But he didn't take any vaccine. I know what he took. Vitamin D, Vitamin C, zinc, famotidine, melatonin, remdesivir, and Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail. Neither of these is a vaccine.
     
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    I suggest that you consult my thread The State of the Vaccines (the moderators found it helpful, and pinned it down to the top of sub-forum Coronavirus Pandemic Discussions:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-state-of-the-vaccines.576983/

    I'm perfectly aware of the phase 3 trials going on right now. In my thread I posted extensive information about them, updated from time to time. You can see that post #167, posted on September 24, 2020, contains the announcement of the phase 3 trial of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine your link is talking about.

    My knowledge of vaccines is professional, so I'm perfectly aware of the smallest detail about them. Vaccines are not used for treatment. They are used to prevent infections. Once Trump got the virus, it was too late to give him a vaccine, and if given one, it wouldn't make any difference whatsoever. Vaccines mimic the presence of the virus in various ways (look at that thread, I explain what kinds exist) to stimulate the immune system, but if the real virus is already in, there is no more need to mimic its presence.
     
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    Low dose of lithium has been proposed to prevent brain atrophy and dementia, as some studies of autopsies have suggested that people with bipolar disorder on lithium, once old and dead, have a larger brain volume than similar old and dead people who also had bipolar disorder but were on valproic acid instead of lithium. This said, lithium is a rather dangerous prescription medicine. Its therapeutic index is very narrow, meaning that the therapeutic dose is not much smaller than the toxic dose. Acute lithium intoxication is relatively frequent and can result in serious consequences including brain damage, coma, and death. Chronic use of lithium has a detrimental effect on kidneys and thyroid. So, beware.

    No demented person would function like Biden has functioned in the one-on-one debates with Sanders and Trump, merely on caffeine and amphetamines. The thing is, Biden is not demented, period. Like you said, he may have some cognitive signs of aging. The same applies to Trump.

    Yes, Eric Trump goofed. I'm just appalled at the level of ignorance and misinformation...

    "Trump is doing a good job for the US" - I beg to differ.

    If Biden is elected we will see the AOC plan come into play = the sky will fall. They will come for our guns. They will abolish the borders and America will become a socialist third world s.... hole. Oh wait, when did I hear the exact same predictions? Oh, before Obama got elected the first time. When else? Oh, before Obama got elected the second time. Still, last I checked, the sky is still up there, I still own a gun, the country still has borders, we're still capitalist, and we're not a third world s.... hole.

    Yeah, yeah, every time a Democrat runs for POTUS, we hear the above catastrophic predictions. Newsflash: Obama was a moderate. Biden is a moderate. Don't you worry, America won't be destroyed. Besides, if a president really wanted to implement an extremist's agenda, it's unlikely that Congress would go along with it. The SCOTUS might also strike down outrageous executive orders. We do have a system of checks and balances. Trump tries to undermine and weaken it at all times, but hopefully there is some of it left and once Trump is hopefully kicked out of the White House, the system will strengthen again.
     
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    ~ People throw words around without literal meaning. Like "senior moment" , crazy , etc.
    Some psychiatrists say they see improvement in patients taking litium orotate and magnesium. Safe with no blood testing.
    Trump seems very sharp - he is just not very articulate. I never hear him stumble when tossing out an exaggerated boast or insult.
    I rate Obama with Jimmy Carter as worst president. Carter did things out of ignorance and innocent lack of vision. Obama knew better but did things on purpose. Glad both are retired.
     
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    No, people actually do believe that Biden is demented, given the insisting lies and edited videos trying to portray him as such. It's simply not true.

    If you've followed my posting, you know what I think of "some psychiatrists say..."

    This kind of anecdotal opinion has strictly ZERO value as evidence. I've explained this so many times here that I don't even feel like explaining again why uncontrolled, non-randomized retrospective *opinions* are not evidence.

    There is currently virtually no scientific support for lithium orotate's effectiveness. I was talking about prescription-strength lithium carbonate or lithium citrate. Research on the health effects of lithium orotate is very limited.

    This idea of giving a weaker form of lithium over-the-counter from nutrition and vitamin stores sounds to me like pure quackery with the goal of exploiting the gullible. These "some psychiatrists" who said something favorable to this, you don't know if they got paid by the makers to issue these *opinions.*

    Yeah, maybe Obama and Carter were quite ineffective. You're entitled to your opinion of them. I would like to remind you, though, that the current candidate is one Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.; not Obama, and not Carter. The one point I was making about them, was that similar arguments are ALWAYS proposed when anybody left of the Far Right runs for president. If we listen to the opponents, all candidates slightly to the left of the Far Right are horrible communisms who will destroy America's fabric forever. The hyperbole is just laughable, and it's happening again in this election cycle, predictably.

    And no, the sky won't fall if he wins. Actually I expect him to be quite vanilla, despite whatever he says in campaign to motivate the base, like ALL politicians say in campaign, with virtually NO exception, so don't even start with the lack of integrity part in misleading voters. The current occupant of the Oval Office is much more of a prime example of lack of integrity.
     
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    "preparation of organisms administered to produce immunity," that would fit quite a number of methods of administering stuff not involving cows.

    I won't even go to the link to try and find the man's exact words, which are 100% necessary to answer the question, "So now Eric Trump says that his dad took a vaccine???," because it is YOUR JOB to provide us with the exact quote of any offending words.

    Just provide me with the exact offending words, which can be searched for, and just like with the Bible, the chapter before and after, because we don't want to take anything out of context now do we?
     
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    Source: https://www.newsbreak.com/news/2080...ls-presidents-coronavirus-treatment-a-vaccine
     
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    He is his father's son. Unless scripted in front of him, what comes out of his mouth is usually unintelligible and garbled. And, often, wrong.
     
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    Man never saw cow puss in his life. And I'm not voting for Billy Carter, or Amy either.

    "We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of [those that believe Al Gore invented the Internet and Trump invented the Vaccine]." (Obama)
     
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    Deflection.
     
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    "The medicines that he was taking." (Eric) Medicines also include the shaking of a rattle and waving of smoke...

    "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of [those that believe Eric Trump (peace be upon him) is a Prophet of Allah]." (Clinton)
     
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    Huh, what??? Are you familiar with clicking on a link? Because the link does have his exact words, and also does have the freaking video of it; you can hear him saying it.

    And what part of this you didn't understand?

    “My father literally started day one creating this vaccine. He worked to push this vaccine, and now my father just took it, and you see how well he got over it,” Eric Trump gushed on ABC News’ “This Week.”
     
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    What is not so hard? It wasn't hard to start with because my link did contain his exact words AND THE FREAKING VIDEO CLIP.
    And yes, the issue here is precisely that Eric is calling these treatments, a vaccine. That is misleading and incorrect. One wonders why he tried to give the impression that his father took a vaccine.
     
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