She’s 13, and the source of a family’s COVID-19 outbreak

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  1. Lesh

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    You think that makes Trump any less of a liar??
     
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    I think you and many others owe Trump an apology for misrepresenting his words.
     
  3. Lesh

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    Not gonna happen.

    He said what he said in an attempt to get kids back in schools...he was trying to make something NOT safe...sound safe
     
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    Trump didn't say that kids aren't contagious. More evidence that the only tactic that the left has is to say that people said things that they simply didn't say.
     
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    He said they were "basically immune"

    Clearly he was trying to create the impression that they were not contagious so that schools could open
     
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    I think we need to stop inventing the deadliness of this virus. It is very contagious but it isn't all that dangerous. In fact the death rate is lower than that of the seasonal flu that we ignore every year. We should be having protests in the streets about authoritarian governments messing with peoples' lives and ruining the lives of many.

    The role of government in this mess should be to inform, not dictate. Freedom allows choice. If the government hadn't become authoritarian about it I think there would be fewer people fighting masks and other mitigation steps. The virus isn't causing the sky to fall. The reaction to it is.
     
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    We should have followed the example set by Sweden.

    The Swedish government treats its citizens like rational adults. Western countries treat their citizens like ignorant children.
     
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    I understand your point and, at no time, did I suggest the sky was falling. It is too early to know the long term impact of the virus, itself. However, there have already been studies showing long-term health problems with the brain, lungs and heart. If for no other reason than that, we have to stop pretending that it's a benign little virus that causes no problems.

    On top of that, we have a President that has admitted to downplaying it and is now shrugging it off as "nothing" with his own diagnosis. The average person doesn't have a team of doctors and access to the latest cocktail of medications that he received so it's dangerous for him to pretend like all things are equal. They aren't.

    Again, there is a middle ground between doing nothing and running through the streets screaming at the top of one's lungs. That someplace in the middle is where we should be aiming.
     
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    If we had handled it like we handle the seasonal flu every year, all would be better. Covid is far more contagious but seasonal flu is far more deadly to those contracting it. In fact the seasonal flu has a death rate nearly 10 times that of Covid - 18% vs. 1%
     
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    How do you work that out. Around 60,000 Americans died of flue last year - though probably quite a few of them had covid. You already have 219,569 dead of Covid and winter has not yet started, never mind those who are going to suffer long term side effects.
     
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    I didn't say flu killed more people. I said the death rate is higher. 1+% of Covid patients die while 18% flu patients die.
     
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    You must not be comparing like with like because this is nowhere near accurate.


    The quote below was part of an article updated on 24th Sept so I would assume it is deemed to be correct.
    https://www.health.com/condition/co...ple-die-of-the-flu-every-year[/quote][/quote]

    Other numbers vary for what they think is going to be the % from covid. I think the lowest I have heard is 0.3% whereas flue is 0.1% or I have even heard it put at 0.01%

    Particularly given that antibodies from Covid do not appear to last long and not everyone gets them it looks like it is going to be a recurring problem till we find some way of defeating it. With flue of course there is the yearly vaccine. There is no such thing as yet for Covid which in any case may change into something which does not just kill the old and those with co-morbidities and others for no known reason. I have also read that people get it worse the second time...though that is early - more study would need to be done on that.
     
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    I heard the numbers on TV from a doctor. I guess you can pick your side. I put little stock in what Fauci says. If someone I can respect says it I'll change my mind.
     
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    So you think that he meant that they are "basically immune" from being contagious?
     
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    In my State of Wisconsin, people are sick of King Evers and his illegal mandates as well... Since the Republicans who control the Legislature in WI are unwilling to do anything about it (even though they have the Statutorial power (323.10) to immediately put a stop to it), there is currently a completely 100% grassroots movement to recall King Evers... I have my doubts that they will receive enough signatures in time (as the State Republican Party is not supporting it or having anything to do with it), but it goes to show that many people here are sick of his tyrannical rule... Personally, I have ignored his illegal mask mandate from Day 1 and still continue to do so.
     
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    I think it's supposed to mean that very few children are becoming infected by this virus...
     
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    Which would be a lie
     
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    I have seen measles, mumps, chicken pox and whooping cough hit communities and families as hard as this family. The only one we really feared was polio.
    They all recovered, no deaths, 1 hospitalization one emergency visit
     
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    Testing positive is not the same as becoming infected...
     
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    The two cannot be accurately compared, due to differing methodology behind coming up with the "death tolls". (Flu infection numbers are more of an estimate, with limited testing and many people never even getting a diagnosis in the first place, while covid infection numbers are a result of continuously testing everyone and everything that coughs/sneezes)... Neither the flu nor covid actually kill, per se, but rather they can lead to other complications (such as pneumonia) which DO kill...

    What is occurring with the "200k+ covid deaths" number is people claiming that "death by pneumonia" is actually "death by covid", and etc... It is all a globalist scam (for globalist power and control over everyone), as has been outlined here and here:

    https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/78/covid-19-deaths-debunked

    https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/68/cult-mask?page=1&scrollTo=161
     
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    Do all Covid patients suffer long term disability?
     
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    Yes. Every single one of them. Be very very afraid!
     
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    That is not true.
     
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    Not the ones that die!
    As for the rest, we have not yet reached "long term" with Covid.
     
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    Hell, better wear two masks, this is like one of those zombie movies and we're all doomed.
     

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