What happens when Obamacare killed?

what happens when the Supreme Court kills Obamacare?

#1. Tens of millions of people immediately lose their health insurance.

#2. Everyone who still has insurance immediately loses coverage for medical conditions that existed prior to having their insurance.

#3. Trump and the Republicans will have NO plan to fix this terrible situation.

Medicare will be next on the chopping block.

Conservatives will say they are being taxed for a medical program they dont want and dont need, and its unConstitutional.

and the now Conservative-majority court will agree.


the only way to fix this problem, will be Medicare for all, paid for as part of the general govt. fund.

 

Any sane or intelligent party leader pushing for this would publish the alternative being offered. Instead, we are getting broken promises regarding its release - leaving us to believe that there is no alternative in the pipeline.

 

Indeed, if Republicans in Congress dont immediately have a plan to insure the tens of millions of people who will suddenly lose insurance, and immediately have a bill to mandate all insurance covers medical preexisting conditions, they will be seen as really hurting the American people intentionally.

 

Let freedom and liberty and charity take care of it. If group insurance is desired, people with that desire can come together and form health co-ops without need of government forcing people to be a part of it. If the people who want to force government healthcare on everyone really cared about the "poor," those caring people would have already started that health-care co-op and let poor people be a part of it. We don't need government to do this - all democratic socialists who want group healthcare should step up and put their money where their mouth is. Why force me to be a part of it when those who want it could do it themselves?

 

VAT tax?

No thanks

 

What happens?

We go back to what we had 10 years ago...and that was a disaster...which is WHY the ACA was passed

 

nope, just add more debt.

or print more money

 

Or we could just do the real life ideology of Logan's run..

 

We really have no idea. Maybe the democrats will do the thing they refused to do when creating that horrible program---negotiate with republicans to find a middle ground.

 

What happens when Obamacare killed? Healthcare will go back to the market where competition will drive down prices, nobody will lose their coverage but I anticipate a lot of the more costly parts of the ACA will vanish. Medicare is not in any way effected by all of this because it was never coalesced with private insurance. The idea of medicare for all is just another scam to put the government in control of our healthcare, ain't gonna happen. Private health insurance operates like a controlled Ponzi scheme where profits are derived from healthy individuals who, in America represent a high enough number to offset what the insurance companies pay for individuals with health problems. A positive side effect of this is that it provides quality healthcare for all with a minimum of restrictions and promotes preventative measures that lead to healthier lifestyles. You get none of that with a one size fits all approach administered by a bureaucracy that is subject to those who control the purse strings. Our healthcare should not be dependent upon politics and who is in office. We should never cede anything to government buffoonery that should be handled by experts.

 

Cmon...there's no negotiating with Republicans

Let's not be silly here

 

Ummm...we had that prior to the ACA and it didn't do that...not even a little bit

Premiums rose FASTER then than since the ACA...even with the sabotage of the GOP regarding the ACA

 

on the contrary, MILLIONS will lose their coverage

and millions more will lose coverage for pre-existing conditions.

 

Well no....one the GOP has repeatedly attempted to put plans up, including just a week ago..and been blocked by the Dems ....that might continue to happen...but there have certainly been plans by the GOP

and no, very few will be impacted since HIPPA offers protections for pre-existing conditions.

But, we have quite a few months to see how the court will decide....they haven't even had arguments yet....so there is certainly time for the Dems to stop whining and actually work to make a legal piece of legislation to fix it

 

Blocked by Dems?

You can't "block" something that was never proffered

 

Wait..you think there is a functioning Senate?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

 

Trump's promised health care plan has been "two weeks away" for years now.

A lot of down ballot races are revolving around this issue.

 

Really??? What were you paying then and what are you paying now?You have to include the ridiculously high deductibles. Ample Evidence Shows Average Premiums and Spending Exploded After ACA Implementation in 2014.While it is important to look at data for several years after 2013 to assess the impact of the ACA, comparing individual market premiums in 2013 with those in 2014—the year its key changes took effect—provides an approximation of the initial change. The Manhattan Institute compared the average of the five least expensive pre-ACA plans in 2013 with the least expensive plans available on exchanges in 2014. Manhattan’s researchers adjusted the pre-ACA plan premiums upward to account for the population facing surcharges or denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition. Manhattan estimated that the average state individual market premium increased 41% between 2013 and 2014. A county-level analysis suggested that premiums increased by 49%.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...miums-to-increase-substantially/#357da2c015be

 

Um...the Dems just blocked this
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1494

https://www.tillis.senate.gov/2020/...nditions/31e26a07-6610-4e71-b563-c2532a8b1433

 

Also....my contract with my insurance company....as well as most all Americans who have a contract with an insuracne company isn't depended on Obamacare, which sounds like might be unConstitutional.

 

so how come before the ACA many people could not get health insurance or not get treatment for preexisting conditions covered hmmmmm??????????????????????

 

wrong!!!!

HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) protects you if you have a pre-existing condition in several ways. First, if you switch jobs or take a new job that offers a group health plan, you can’t be denied access to that healthcare plan just because you have a pre-existing condition. The new group plan can, however, exclude you from coverage for that particular pre-existing condition for up to 12 months. This is a compromise that HIPAA brought about. Before the law, the plan could just deny you coverage for that condition…forever! The law also lets you reduce (or completely get rid of) that 12-month exclusion period, if you had continuous health insurance coverage in the last year (meaning coverage that had breaks no longer than 63 days).

Happy? Then just wait a second. The insurance companies distrust each other and you. So, the story’s a little different for individual insurance. If you had group insurance and lost it, then HIPAA prevents the individual plans from denying you coverage as long as you had continuous coverage for 18 months. However, HIPAA can’t protect you if you only have an individual insurance plan, so an insurance company can still refuse to give you insurance based on a pre-existing condition…that is until 2014 at which point, the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare) will go into full effect and health insurance companies will no longer be able to discriminate against people with pre-existing conditions. No matter what.

https://www.sharecare.com/health/health-insurance/if-pre-existing-condition-hippa

 

Well part of it is working, the other part is merely blocking anything that might help the American people

 

Because they weren't covered by the HIPPA protections

 

without the ACA, your insurance company can DROP you due to your age, weight, lifestyle, sex, etc etc.