Amy Coney Barrett is the Reason Why Trump Lost

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  1. Gatewood

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    I got to thinking about why I wanted Trump to win in the first place back in 2016 and then remembered that a great deal of it had to do with the status of the Supreme Court. I am tired of whacko liberal activist judges legislating from their court rooms rather than adhere to the dictates of the U.S. Constitution. That aside I found Hillary Clinton's open and arrogantly mocking corruption distasteful.

    Obviously I would prefer Trump to Biden, but I don't find Biden particularly distasteful. Do I honestly think that Biden is suffering from dementia? Yes, and I think that anyone capable of self-honesty and general discernment knows damn well that the Dem Party presidential candidate is a dementia sufferer. But it's not a deal breaker because the real Dem Party presidential candidate is relatively young and vigorous Kamala Harris. Everyone KNOWS that shortly after winning the Oval Office -- if Biden-Harris does win it -- that Joe will step down, making Kamala the new president; and while she is probably too damn young and inexperienced to make a good president, she will probably get the job done after a very rocky false start or two.

    So why do I say that putting Amy Coney Barrett on the Supreme Court will doom Trump? Because a great many of us cared more about the make-up of the SCOTUS than we did in regards to what rump sits in the Oval Office hot seat. Presidents come and go but a SCOTUS appointment -- and its ideological shift to the Left or Right -- damn well seems like forever. Do enough 'Trump Supporters' feel the same way that after Barrett becomes a Supreme Court judge we won't feel a driving urgency to vote for Trump? I dunno . . . do they?

    So obviously and blatantly corrupt polling showing Biden consistently ahead of Trump for no logical reasons aside, I believe that if the turn out for Trump is less than it should be it's going to be because with the appointment of Barrett the sense of driving urgency to re-elect Trump . . . will be gone.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see her appointment as something that would hurt Trump, especially if people believe Biden will pack the court. Biden's failure to address it will keep conservatives going to the polls for Trump...
     
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    It was all about the supreme court to me, trolling liberals was just a bonus from Trump I didn't expect.
     
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    I respectfully disagree with several of your points. The supreme court is there to interpret the law. So in reality it's not so important -- if we have judges who follow the law. So far trump has given us those type judges. Kamala Harris has a horrible record both as AG and a senator -- look it up. She is a lightweight and only good at reciting dem talking points. Especially racial ones. But to suggest Biden will step down if elected is just a wild guess. I wouldn't count on it. But -- today Trump is still just as popular in the states he won in 2016. Biden may be leading in the polls now, may even get the most popular votes, but Trump has the votes in the states that will again give him the electoral college win. It's as clear as glass.
     
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    Ummmm... wait

    The ACA is a law passed by Congress and you’re counting on the COURT to get rid of it

    Do you see the problem with your claims?

    I doubt it
     
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    The problem is congress passed a law that Trump signed that got rid of the tax/mandate that made Obamacare constitutional..
     
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    Yes, all of that is logical and also it has become a national tradition -- excepting Jimmy Carter and G.H. Bush -- that a sitting president ends up serving eight years. Thus it SHOULD be Trump returning to the Oval Office for 2021. While I agree that the Supreme Court is there to interpret the law, I prefer that interpretation to be based on the Constitution rather than on Mao Tse Tung's little red book. Thus I shall relax somewhat after Barrett's confirmation -- as just might many other 'conservatives'. So I was also wondering if that relaxation factor could be enough to cost Trump the election. Will it? I rather doubt it. Could it? Possibly.
     
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    Why do you assume that I am counting on the court to readdress abortion? What makes you think that it will come up before the court or that they would be willing to revisit the issue if it did? You ARE aware that Roberts decides like a leftist activist judge about every dozen or so times, yes?
     
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    Go back and read my post.

    I was talking about the ACA
     
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    Sorry . . . I typed without processing. But again, why should the court tackle Obamacare again when it's already essentially dead in the water . . . after costing this nation many billions of dollars?
     
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    Gotta love the GOP

    They couldn’t get the votes to do away with the ACA so they undermined it and then use THAT to get the COURT to “ legislate from the bench”
     
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    You seem to have missed your own point.

    It is a law passed by Congress that you want to use the Courts to do away with

    Kinda shoots your previous posts to ****
     
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    You mean exactly the same way in which the Dem Party's leadership is trying to eliminate gun ownership in this nation WITHOUT going through the Constitutional ammendment process . . . via one little law change at a time? Nice!
     
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    No it doesn't since any law change by the legislative and executive branches is subject to legal review IF someone presents it to the court and IF the court sees fit to review it. Separate but equal branches of government. It's in the Constitution and every thing.
     
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    We would you expect that when a law is found unconstitutional that congress doesn't get a second chance or several additional chances to craft a measure that could be constitutional? The problem isn't with their claims but your perception. That is the problem. hope you can see that.
     
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    Dude, you folks are trying to legislate from the bench

    It’s blatantly obvious. At least have the integrity to admit it
     
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    They did get the votes to pass a law getting rid of the mandate..

    The supreme court ruled it not a penalty but a tax remember?
     
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    Don't buy into the demoralization agitprop. Go and VOTE and then let the chips fall.

    The only possibility preventing a massive Trump landslide at this point is the greatest ballot/voting fraud in world history to date or some epic type of Black Swan. At this point, I don't think even the Soprano thugs of the DNC can pull that level of fraud off, so IMO Trump win is 80%+ Stay tuned!
     
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    Nothing but a back door attempt to use the court to legislate from the bench

    The interesting thing is that the GOP did NOT do away with the tax, they reduced it to zero.

    The tax still exists
     
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    Link?
     
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    I didn't vote for Trump because of the SCOTUS. That was important but I voted for him to shake up establishment politics. This is the only reason Biden has any chance. Progressives hate biden. He's an old, rich, white male. I guarantee it bugs the crap out of them they even have to run him. However he is part of the name recognition cabal that beckons back to the moderate democrat days of the 90s who you could actually come to a compromise with. I wonder what dems will do when the last of these dinosaurs die off and they have to run one of their repulsive new age progressive.
     
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    I agree. I think the increase in reporting of inflated poll numbers is intended to prop up this scam. If a Democrat "win" is challenged they'll refer to the polls as evidence. At this point in history does anyone really believe or trust the Democrat party? Honestly, do we want our country to be run by crazoids, thugs and thieves?
     
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    It isn't Congress' job to interpret the constitution (tho I certainly appreciate it when they try to limit themselves to it). Thats SCOTUS' job.
     
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    They already showed us the intended template with Barack Obama. If you did not like Barack Obama then the attack media outlets -- working for the DNC -- asked you how long you had been a racist. So the same technique just with or misogynist or homophobe or (fill in the blank). The media outlets working for the political Left will not change their winning technique.
     
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