Trump 'is the most flawed person' he's ever met' --Gen. John Kelly

Finally, Gen. Kelly is speaking his mind, but will any of Trump's fans listen?

Probably not, their ears are glued shot.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/poli...om-former-administration-officials/index.html

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends, CNN has learned.

 

Those Generals love war. They take pride in body bags coming home. It makes them think they did something of value. They hate that Trump isn't giving them the bodies they long for.

BTW. Did Kelly win the Vietnam War? The war in Iraq? Where did he earn his creds?

 

Sunday on CNN. Should be interesting

 

Why should I care of his opinion?

Further, if he praised Trump, would YOU have listened?

Give me a break.

 

I just have a hard time believing anything from CNN anymore.

with that said, i like him being transactional...he’s not a elite washington insider that has deep contacts, and cares more about what’s best then his relationship with Gen Kelly or whoever in the future.

Moreover i am sure Kelly doesn’t like Trump’s ending if endless obama biden wars

 

So tell me. If you saw Trump shoot someone on Fifth Ave in broad daylight...I bet you'd find a way to accept it

 

that’s comical...i mean i watch Meet The Press, Face the Nation, and Wallace but if you are watching your Sunday shows on CNN?? it’s now wonder your post are so wrong

 

Nonsense.

All this forum is is a bunch of radical political extremists pointing at the other side accusing them of the same. Yes, I'm looking directly at you.

 

i’d have to know the facts behind the shooting.

what i do know is biden has been in washington for 47 years, created massive debt during that time, passed some of the most harmful and racist laws, encouraged endless wars, and on top of that enriched his family off his office

 

It doesn't take a Trump fan to observe the hunger for anything anti-Trump. Like a baby in a high chair eager for that next spoon full of applesauce. Wouldn't that eagerness and hunger also be considered a flaw?

 

-Capitalism or Socialism
-America First or Globalism and Swamp first
-Law and Order or riots and violence
-Second amendment or Beto grabbing the guns
-Main street or Wall street, Hollywood and woke Silicon Valley billionaires
-ISIS and Al-Qaeda or... hmm. no ISIS and no AL-Qaeda
-Energy independence or dependence on foreign oil
-Unprecedented prosperity or Green new ripoff
-Peace between Israel and the Arabs or billions to Iran
...

Hmm, I don't know about general Kelly... I'll go with capitalism, law and order, prosperity, energy independence, full employment, skyrocketing markets, no entanglement in foreign wars, peace in the Middle East, no ISIS. Kelly can have the entire Biden crime family to himself though.

 

incompetent rebuttal

 

If he had praised Trump, here's my reaction:

I would have been surprised.

He's a four star general. Historically speaking, generals rarely make public criticisms of their commander-in-chief.

That's why you should listen.

Tillis and McMaster both have criticized him, as well, and Admiral McRaven.

Historically speaking, generals who were in the president's staff, let alone being in the chain of command, especially do not criticize their commander in chief public, it just isn't done.

But, many more have:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/politics/military-leaders-trump-floyd-protests/index.html

Moreover, over Trump's handling of the protests, a quite a number of 3 and 4 stars generals, including and Admiral, weighed in

https://www.justsecurity.org/70674/the-generals-constitution/

In my 69 years, I've never seen anything like this, the fact that it is unprecedented is why you should pay attention.

But, of course, there is NO ONE who criticizes Trump you would listen to.

Right?

 

If you are implying picking Biden is a binary choice of everything on your list, you are making a ridiculous argument.

Democrats are not anti-capitalist, that's nonsense.
Our favorite comedian, is anti-woke, Bill Maher.
Trump hasn't negotiated a peace agreement with any country.
No one has given 'billions to Iran'.
America has prospered much more under democratic administrations than with Republican, noting that the two greatest
economic upheavals in recent history occurred with a republican in office, and the only time a surplus was achieved was
when a democrat was in office.
No one is taking your guns away. Beto is not in Office.
Riots and Violence are occurred under THIS president, and scores of generals and an admiral have criticised Trump
on this. https://www.justsecurity.org/70674/the-generals-constitution/
Trump's administration consists almost entirely of former Goldman & Sach's personell.
https://inequality.org/research/government-sachs-trump-administration/
Trump's administration is the most corrupt in history and as swamps go,
Trump is the creature from the (red) lagoon.

 

When you attempt to drain the swamp many generals will be upset, remember the Pentagon is located in the swamp. Kelly only made a general, Trump made a president. So Kelly why don't you run and compete with your ideas? I know, it's easier to hide behind a desk and criticize.

 

Gen Kelly is guilty of what Trump is accused of. Either General Kelly has met very few people, which is doubtful, or he has met people who are more flawed than Trump. That statement is either a lie or a gross exaggeration.

 

Or Trump is the most flawed person he has ever met.

Or the literal truth. I'm going with the latter.

 

Most were shocked with his election to office. But I suspect they gave him the benefit of the doubt, thinking he would work hard to learn. And then they saw he didn't. And they were exposed to who he really was - what he really thought. Anyone who knew anything about Trump prior to his escalator trip knew who he was and what he was all about - and not shocked that a dog that old wouldn't change or learn anything new.

 

Out of how many thousands of people he likely met in his lifetime?
Nope. Not even close to possible.
Kelly is guilty of what they accuse Trump of doing.

 

It is very possible.

Or Trump really is as despicable as he gives every appearance of being.

 

I wasn't. I expected it, because he so perfectly exemplifies all that is worst in the American character.

I knew he wouldn't. See above.

 

Trump didn't promise to learn the old ways and go along, he offered something different, and that was why people voted for him. He promised another option and if you check his list of accomplishments you will see he is getting it done. Trump is making the past presidents, plus a lot of politicians, look like amateurs. Trump wasn't elected to fall in line, he was elected to shake the tree. I guess Kelly couldn't hold on to his shaking tree branch. Who the hell cares what Kelly thinks.

 

I have met a wide variety of people in my many years. Being a general, I am sure he has met a lot more.

It would be impossible to for me to say who was the most flawed. I have set on a couple of court martial boards who likely provided a few candidates. Lets call it what it was "A lie".

 

Looking at your link, the sum total of how they connect this to Kelly is...



"Former White House chief of staff, retired Marine Gen. John Kelly, has told friends that President Donald Trump "is the most flawed person" he's ever known.

"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends, CNN has learned."





-So basically they are claiming that some unknown, unidentified "friend" is claiming that he said that, and they take that one step further and take this unknown, unidentified "friend's" paraphrasing of what he supposedly said, and decided to put it into quotes even though by definition a secondhand account does not warrant quotes.

Do you honestly think that qualifies as reporting? How do you know that "friend" actually exists, and if they do, how do you know they are being honest? You do not, which is why an unnamed source is useless, because there is nobody to hold accountable for their claim.

Without further substantiation, this so called story is literally NOTHING. Do you not understand that? It is truly laughable. Nonsensical even.

 

In your opinion. Likely General Kelly has met people with worse character flaws than Trump. But probably no one with more character flaws.