A Question:

Yes.

We'll see what happens, but to suggest pollsters learned nothing from 2016, is just plain silly.

It's not looking good for team red right now.

 

That's not what I am suggesting, what I am saying is that the pollsters deliberately manipulate their polls. It's incredibly simple, just poll NJ suburbs more and PA suburbs less and you'll get the exact results your paying fake news masters desire to see.

PS, I imagine the pollsters may try to get their final polls more or less accurately as those are the ones they'll be judged by, the only ones that are validated by the actual vote tally... but we are not there yet and there is absolutely no reason for them not to "sell" whatever garbage their paying customers (fake news) want to buy.

 

There's another thing to consider, something I was reminded about talking with one of my passengers today. What was the economic performance pre-COVID 19? If voters remember how well the economy was doing for ALL SECTORS then Trump and the GOP will win.

 

I don't think so. Trump did nothing to maintain the economy that Obama created. Taking credit for it might have earned him some votes. But not from anybody who cared to become informed.

The reason Trump is losing is not even Covid. It's his criminal activities, his incompetence, and the fact that he's seeking to create an authoritarian regime. The Pandemic only makes his political situation worse.

 

Obama didn't do ****. If you call less than 1% annual GDP growth and all those jobs were nothing but part time minimum wage jobs a "roaring success", then something is askew. When Trump was elected, businesses were clamoring to get back to do what they do best. Make money. They could not do that under Communist Obama's reign of error.

 

I call going from a negative 2.5% growth that he inherited to a positive 2.6% in one year. That's over a 5% swing. The maximum he obtained for a single year was 3.1%. But not even in his best years did Trump reach that. Despite the fact that he promised "at least" 4% (which maybe we could have obtained if Trump had not been elected) And a 7.66% job creation average per year in his second term. The highest of any President in recorded history (which extends back to Coolidge)

 

This isn't your grand dad's Democratic party.

 

Again, those jobs were nothing more than part time minimum wage jobs, no thanks to Obamacare. Sorry, but black and hispanic unemployment were far lower under Trump.

 

Sure as hell ain't. The Democrat Party has warp sped to the Left with impunity.

 

The right has done the same.

 

Nope pretty much right where we've always been. Don't fall for the optical illusion.

 

The far right loony Christians have always been a focus of the party? Hardly. LOL. Partisans.

 

First they aren't far right, and second no Republican has won without their support since Reagan, third disagreeing with you doesn't make them Looney whatever horse crap you want to believe.

One more thing the only reason anyone who things if themselves as moderate or conservative, can vote for Joe Biden is by pretending that he'll actually survive the next four years, currently a minority view among American voters, and that he's lying to his parties crazies rather than to the rest of us.

 

States will say "NO" to gun confiscation and mandatory vaccination by seceding. This may not benefit 'the country', but this divorce may end up benefitting The People who, apparently, have grown too politically polarized to find common ground.

 

Evangelicals including 'rapturers' like Pompeo and Pence are indeed far right, or they are off the political scale all together....

Either way they come in handy for Trump, because his Conservative survival of the fittest mentality ties in nicely with the folks expecting Christ's 2nd coming...and btw these people wouldn't know Christ if they fell over him.

Hint: Christ spoke of peace, not war. ("My Father's kingdom is not of this world").

But I see you are keen to have the fundamentalist militants - readying for Armageddon - on your team.

 

~ With a Democrat rule and China Joe in the hot seat XiPing would be in power. Public schools would quickly become more acclimated to the Confucius Institute style where Communist government would be taught under the guise of "Progressive".
Mandarin would be taught as second language. The U.S. Constitution would never be discussed nor followed by Congress.
Private healthcare would be disabled by government mandates /regulations to force people onto Democrat-Care .
Sorry - no ammo for your guns. Guns would eventually be illegal. The middle-class would rapidly begin to shrink. Crime in the streets would make every city CHAZ. Police departments would be neutered. Lots of political speech with pretty words of deception. Dumbing down on steroids. Rampant vote manipulation and likely an actual constitutional amendment or two.
All this excitement would happen in the first four years ! Why ? Because the average moderate conservative is too civilized or too old to become violently resistant to government dominance. Who could ask for more ..? ´

Don't forget to vote ! ✔

 

......"government dominance".

No, that's just your RW Conservative ideology, based on a denial of the proper function of government, which inter alia, includes provision for the common welfare.

The 18th century US Constitution was drafted by people escaping the arbitrary rule of the British monarch, but they failed to deal with systemic poverty eradication*, which is a necessary task of government because self-interested competitive individuals are not concerned with that outcome, and nor should they be.

* requiring completely different policies in the modern global economy

Indeed, don't forget to vote for a government that will advance the common welfare.

 

2009 to 2016 less than 2% mean GDP growth.

 

Obama’s last three years had better growth than Trump’s three years

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/#7f237ae4fedf


Not much in it really.

 

They are exactly the same type of jobs that Trump claimed he "created".

Unemployment is far higher under Trump, because of him botching the handling of the pandemic. It was lower before the pandemic because that's how Obama set it up. You see, unlike Trump who only cares about himself, so he only looks at number while he is President*, Obama planned for job growth far beyond his presidency. So that it would continue even if there were an incompetent President in charge. But Trump managed to stop it anyway. Trump will go down in History as the worst President this country had ever had, but even that won't do justice to how poorly he mismanaged this country.

 

Since I'm old, I've lived through times like that with both parties. This IS NOT the same. The democratic party of say 50 years ago still loved America, still revered it's core values, it's constitution, and all the things that made us the envy of the world. I don't know exactly how any group could lose the appreciation and love for these qualities, but the democratic leadership of today has purged themselves completely of those values. It's not what they say- which is bad enough, but still just hot air.... It's what they do. They have lowered the bar in terms of acceptable character to the point that is it not necessary for them.

Put such people in power- and you will bring about destruction of the America that has led the world, change it into a shadow of what it used to be.

And you..... will be stuck with it, because they really don't give a damn about what you think if you object to what they think.

 

Because his first 4 years he was pulling out of the Great Republican Recession. And then Trump wasted it all. But you know that... I mean, that's why you stopped at 2016

 

Look at the chart, from 2014 on it was all downhill.

 

Ideology has become irrelevant. This a clash between the dominate white caste and the non-white under caste. The white caste is terrified that their power is in decline.