Yet another check in the no column for mail in ballots

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  1. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    In my state a disabled person (mentally or physically) cab be assisted in the privacy of the voting booth by a family member.

    If this person is registered he/she must meet the requirements to vote in that state; If not registered the vote can not count.

    The person must also sign the absentee ballot and that signature must match the one on record.

    I will listen to the complaining if this person is a Biden supporter and The President loses by one vote.
     
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    Seems he would...well, unless of course they vote for the candidate he supports.
     
  3. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    All mental disabilities are not created equal. I have a medically diagnosed "mental disorder" in the form of PTSD but I'm still a fully functional independent adult capable to taking care of myself and going to work without assistance. I have some buddies who are a hell of a lot worse off than I am one of which was involuntarily committed to a mental hospital because he was so messed up.

    Being a veteran is irrelevant in this regard. If you are literally incapable of understanding what voting even is anymore then no you shouldn't be allowed to vote because at that point "you" are not making the decision, you are doing what someone else is telling you to do. And unfortunately yes plenty of veterans fall into that category due to no fault of their own.
     
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    Wow, went right over your head... The autistic person is not casting the vote :shock::wierdface::whisper:
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, because that is the same thing.
    Is the autistic kid the one actually making the decision? If yes, then he should get to vote. If dad just takes the ballot and checks off who he wants and mails it in, thats a crime.
     
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    Even if your mental problems are severe you still consume and contribute to the U.S. economy in one way or another. So even if you cannot understand the concept of voting your legal guardian who provides your life sustaining support should have the right to vote for you. You the mentally impaired have a U.S. birth certificate and are a legal resident you should have the right to having a vote even if it is through your legal guardian.
     
  7. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    One person one vote means just that. YOU are the one using your own brain to make a decision. In the scenario you just presented the person making the decision isn't the mentally handicapped person but rather their caretaker. How does the caretaker know who you wish to vote for if you are literally incapable of understanding the concept of voting? That is in fact giving your caretaker the ability to cast two votes based on THEIR choices, not yours. How does the caretaker know who you wish to vote for in that case in order to accurately cast your ballot for you? Or are you arguing that since the caretaker is taking care of you then they should be allowed to cast two ballots based on their own personal choices and not yours because you are literally incapable of making choices?

    I'm pretty sure that's illegal everywhere and not covered under the ADA.
     
  8. 61falcon

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    Some states specifically say that a legal guardian can vote for their ward.
     
  9. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Yeah but I'm pretty sure the ward has to be mentally capable of telling the guardian who they want to vote for. If you are deemed mentally incapable of making your own decisions by a doctor and your ward votes for you then I'm pretty sure that's illegal everywhere. If you're in a coma or something I don't think any state allows your guardian to cast a ballot for you.
     
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    What do you think about the same person buying a gun?
     
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    DEFINITELY NOT!!!
     
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    25 states which include Arizona, Connecticut, Florida, Maryland, NewJersey, New York, Ohio and Texas allow mentally incapacitated the right to vote unless specifically limited by a court order. Eleven states including Illinois and Pa. have no disability related restriction to the right to vote in their state constitution. Nine states ban anyone declared mentally incompetent including anyone under guardianship from voting. they are Alabama, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, South Carolina, S. Dakota, Utah and Virginia. California restores voting rights to those under guardianship, if they petition the courts.
     
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    I don't understand???
     
  14. Josephwalker

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    Problem is with mail in ballots. The young man I referred to in the OP got registered online through his father who filled out the form. That same father will fill out the ballot. The severely autistic son can’t do anything but stare into space and has no idea what voting even is. Mail in ballots allow this type of voter fraud double voting to occur.
     
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    It's ok if the left does it
     
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    Well do you live in one of the 9 states that ban his having any voting rights.??
     
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    It's not about the autistic young man voting. He's entirely incapable of that. It's about his dad using his sons ballot so he gets to vote twice.
     
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    Once again another leftist attempting to change the subject. Subject is the father using the sons ballot to vote twice.
     
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    Thank heaven for retards, to vote for Biden
     
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    I don't see the problem. He's no less competent to vote than any other Democrat voter.
     
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    Autism has very little to do with intelligence. Many autistic people are very bright.
     
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    A lot of barely functional democrats will vote, so it;'s no different...,.
     
  23. Josephwalker

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    This particular young man is severely autistic and has to be cared for 24-7. Try not to change the subject here which is his father using the sons ballot to vote twice.
     
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    Uh huh...

    So how far are you willing to extend this ...paradigm?

    How about the elderly who need help voting?
    Alzheimer's patients?
    Veteran quadriplegics?

    Just guessing here but you seem to be willing to cut off your proverbial nose to keep your face from voting.
     
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    Exactly right. How many Alzheimer's patients living under their children's care are receiving ballots that their children fill out in order to vote twice.
     
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