Race and Crime

Please pardon me for jumping in but, re: "Crime is a choice.", don't you think that one's environment has an effect on the choices one is likely to make?

For example, wouldn't a wealthy man on his way home from a round of golf be less likely to rob someone than a poor person stuck in the projects or similar rough neighborhood who, as @edna kawabata said: "...can't pay his rent".

I'm sure that there are people who wouldn't turn to robbery etc under any circumstances just as there are people who commit crimes for the thrill but it just seems obvious to me that someone who needs money is more likely to rob you than someone who doesn't need money.

I'm fully aware that there are many other types of crimes but just chose robbery as an example.

 

All people of all races commit disproportionate number of crimes when they are suffering. If I did not have support network I may have become an alcoholic. Thank G-d and my parents, I was stopped very soon.

Hurt people hurt people.

 

Not one bit.

Oh, come on. You know darn well that those in the "rough neighbourhoods" who are committing crimes are not the single mothers who are struggling to make ends meet.

A majority of crimes are committed by a very, very small minority of people and most offenders have been committing felonies from a juvenile age.

Need money for what?

Very few robberies are acts of random despair.

There seems to be a "criminl personality type" and it includes flaws such as poor judgement, weak self-control, no morals, resentment against- and disbelief in authority, self-victimisation, anti-intellectuality and instinctiveness.

In a sense, "the criminal type" is much like an animal or, at best, a very young child - He completely lacks the capacity to conceptualise his perceptions and does not know how to postpone his satisfaction.

 

It is mostly the young man who started committing crimes when he was in elementary school.

 

That sounds like something you found in a fortune cookie and not a science book. The condition of "suffering" is different for people all over the world.

 

No, it ****ing doesn't. Bad parenting and bad culture creates a criminal element, in any demographic.

There are many lawful and decent ways to 'get out of' poverty, but they all involve hard work and responsibility. There's a clear choice being made here, and it doesn't need spelling out.

 

Take it back a step or seven. WHY can't the guy pay his rent? Did his parents choose not to teach him the decent and lawful way out of poverty?

 

Nope, not at all. The poorest people on earth do less crime than the wealthiest.

Choices are choices .. whether we make them ourselves, or our parents made them on our behalf.

ALL of us can choose better, any time we like. It costs nothing.

 

You know, this may come as a surprise but generally speaking, I think you're right especially when it comes to street crime like muggings, home invasions, armed robberies etc.

I lived and worked in one of those inner city rough neighborhoods for about 20 years and out of the 3 times I had to deploy the pistol I usually carried, none of my would-be predators were about to attack me or my neighbors over a loaf of bread.

I'm afraid that the general permissiveness primarily in Democratic run cities that allows unchecked rioting and vandalism is telling criminal miscreants that it's OK to loot and destroy other people's property and is simply inviting more of the same.

 

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Don't you think that depends on the type of crime?

I don't know of many poor people who are guilty of income tax evasion nor do I know of many wealthy people who rob liquor stores.

I agree, however with your assertion that: "ALL of us can choose better, any time we like. It costs nothing" but I am, however, intimately familiar with the observation that: "No good deed goes unpunished."

 

And none of those things you cite could, to any degree, be the result of getting a substandard education, in under-funded schools, w/ no supermarkets for the availability of nutritious food (taken for granted by those of us living in the 'burbs), & little hope of having access to higher education, while also living in a poverty-stricken area w/ limited opportunities, and seeing (instead of a world of bright options ahead of them to choose from) only bleak prospects for the future?

You know-- since you spoke of animals-- one of the chief indicators, amongst animals, of a very advanced consciousness is the ability to empathize. That's clearly not something, at least regarding this subject, you have any willingness to try.

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No one is starving, and there are no food deserts. There is healthy food available all over urban America, for anyone who is serious about their health. Heck, I know people who travel an hour on the train (each way) to buy the produce they want .. and they do it because they're serious about their health. They lug it all home in one of these:

Apparently these can carry enough produce for a family for a week. Good exercise, too.

"Food Desert" is code for "I don't like having to travel further than 15 minutes to buy food".

 

Ooooh, come on! The government has injected billions and billions of dollars into the inner-city schools and America is not Malawi; There is good food for everyone.

Again, the people committing crimes are not doing it because there is no education - They do not even care about education and look down on those who take school seriously. There is simply zero credibility to the case you are trying to make here. Zero.

I empathise with those living in "the hood" who are hurt by the crime, but not with those who are committing it.

 

Smoking pot and doing worse drugs surely shows you care about your health, does it not?

 

No, it does not. Crime is not a "class issue".

As crude as it may sound, it is hard to commit tax crimes when you are not paying any taxes.

 

I've been over this before but it might help with the empathy thing if you understood a little more of what's going on.

28% of African Americans children live in poverty. Poverty is stressful. It can, to varying degrees, expose the child to food insecurity, violence, homelessness to frequent moving, family disruptions, exposure to addictions, stressed and inconsistent parenting, neglect and environmental dangers. Chronic stress causes overproduction of cortisol and changes brain development. Children are more likely to have problems with self regulation, that is, poor self control and be impulsive, poor emotional regulation and be aggressive. They may also be hyper-vigilant (hare triggered), have poor verbal skills, little empathy for others, difficulty focusing on a task, and suffer from PTSD. These children will do poorly in school without intervention. Some will drop out. Some will start making babies, attempt to be parents and repeat the process. Some will get a gun.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5263216/
https://fpg.unc.edu/sites/fpg.unc.e.../HowDoAcuteChronicStressImpactDevelopment.pdf
https://www.jstor.org/stable/23723382?seq=1

 

Bad parenting is a choice. Crime is a choice. There is no excuse for either and being an apologist for both is not empathetic, it is gross.

 

Okay class, here is an example of the Dunning Kruger Effect.

 

Pretending someone has made an intellectual mistake because they’ve told the truth that you don’t want to hear is just delightfully hilarious.
Apologetics is a woeful mindset.

 

Understanding the problem is the first step in solving the problem.

 

Then make sure you understand it!

Crime is a choice. Period.

 

Superficial knowledge of a problem makes the answers seem simple but doesn't solve the problem. Why choose crime?

 

There is no empathy (at all) in enabling self-destruction. Have the white overlords taught you to enable (and thus destroy), Edna? You must know that's their goal, so why in hell are you helping them? They're the ones driving this idea that it all can't be helped. They're the ones selling the idea that it's complex .. in the hope that the idea of complexity will put you off even trying.

You want to see what real empathy looks like? Go find some elders in your nearest Chinese community, and ask them if it's complex. They'll tell you the truth, because they're not seeking to destroy you.

 

The answers ARE simple.

EG ..... why choose crime? Because it's 'easier' than the self-discipline that anyone hoping for self-determination and dignity must possess. You could ask the same question of obesity. People choose it because it's 'easier' than controlling oneself.

 

It appears you don't understand it, Edna. Or at least, you're buying the 'understanding' the white overlords have fed you.