Study Shows Significant Link Between Mercury and Autism

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  1. truth and justice

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    Did you read your link? Two points. Your link refers to thimerasal in vaccines given to infants. How many times does one have to be informed that infant vaccines do not contain thimerasal? Secondly, your link is about genetics and states that the autism is due to low levels of glutathione. So apart from providing an anti Vax link, the link also does not support your case
     
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    Yes of course. Your "mercury" is really honey disguised. :roflol:
     
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    I don't remember you providing a link. Did you?


    Probably because the science isn't "fake". In any case, I only included the first few paragraphs of the article. Further reading reveals yet more very interesting information:
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    Freelance journalist Brian Deer has been on a mission to discredit Dr. Wakefield for years. His attack article in the British Medical Journal is an opinion piece that “doesn’t focus on the scientific finding of whether or not autistic children have inflammation in their gastrointestinal tract, which I believe is the crux of the original paper,” notes research scientist Professor Richard Deth. The Age of Autism offers a series of in-depth reports from international authors examining the medical politics that have fueled the Wakefield witch hunt, and why the autism/vaccine link remains a deep concern for growing numbers of parents.

    As early as 2001, Dr Peter Fletcher MB BS PhD, a former Principal Medical Officer with the Department of Health who served as Medical Assessor to the Committee on Safety of Medicines, said that, “With all the benefits of hindsight, what may now be said about the decision to grant a Product License to MMR 10 or so years ago? Evidence on quality and efficacy was probably adequate so a decision had to be made on grounds of safety. Being extremely generous, evidence on safety was very thin. Being realistic there were too few patients followed up for insufficient time. Three weeks is not enough… neither is 4 weeks.”

    And in a 2006 Daily Mail article Dr. Fletcher said, “The refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history.” He said he has seen a “steady accumulation of evidence” from scientists worldwide that the measles, mumps, and rubella jab is causing brain damage in certain children. But he added: “There are very powerful people in positions of great authority in Britain and elsewhere who have staked their reputations and careers on the safety of MMR and they are willing to do almost anything to protect themselves.”

    The persecution of Andrew Wakefield is part of a strategy to cover up the fact that British medical officials failed to adequately safety test MMR vaccine when it was introduced in 1988 or to warn parents that it contained a reactive Urabe strain mumps vaccine. Unbelievably, they purchased the reactive MMR vaccine that injured scores of children, knowing full well that Canada had abandoned its use earlier because it caused meningitis in a number of children. Prior to Andrew Wakefield raising MMR concerns, there were already hundreds of British families litigating in a class action suit over their children’s MMR vaccine injuries.

    One month after Dr. Wakefield’s 1998 paper, a study of vaccine injury claims by US government scientists in the journal Pediatrics found that 48 claimants developed encephalopathy (brain inflammation) within 15 days after receiving an attenuated measles vaccine, resulting in severe neurological sequelae, permanent brain injury, or death. The study reviewed the medical records of affected children over a 23 year period from 1970-1993.

    Initially, a total of 403 claims of encephalopathy and/or seizure disorder after measles, MR, MMR, mumps, or rubella vaccination were identified during the 23 year period. The studied narrowed its review to 48 eligible children.

    “A total of 48 children, ages 10 to 49 months, met the inclusion criteria after receiving measles vaccine, alone or in combination. Eight children died, and the remainder had mental regression and retardation, chronic seizures, motor and sensory deficits, and movement disorders. The onset of neurologic signs or symptoms occurred with a nonrandom, statistically significant distribution of cases on days 8 and 9.” –Pediatrics, Vol. 101, No 3, March 1998

    The study authors concluded that, “This clustering suggests that a causal relationship between measles vaccine and encephalopathy may exist as a rare complication of measles immunization.”

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    Full article: https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/in-the-news/in-defence-of-dr-wakefield/
     
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    There are plenty of researchers with medical backgrounds who no longer believe that many if not all vaccines are safe. There is even a woman with a PhD in Immunology who no longer believes they are helpful and can be harmful. I strongly recommend her book, called The Vaccine Illusion. It can be purchased as a kind book on Amazon.
     
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    You can say it all you want, it doesn't make it true. An article that will hopefully open your eyes to the truth:
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    Many people, including many physicians, believe and will tell you “There is no mercury in vaccines anymore. They took that out years ago!” This is not true. For a list of vaccines that still contain mercury above EPA safety levels click here.
    Seven vaccines are reported to still contain thimerosal, which is 49.5% mercury.

    At almost the exact same time they took a large percentage of mercury out of what was then the childhood schedule, the CDC and ACIP made a new recommendation. That’s right they ADDED MORE. The vaccine-pushers recommended every pregnant woman receive a flu shot during the second trimester. In addition, the recommendation was made that every child receive annual flu vaccines, beginning at six months of age.

    Flu vaccines often contain high levels of thimerosal, which is 50% mercury. Those pregnant mothers and infants who are most likely to get the flu vaccines with mercury are those who are the least likely to have adequate health care. Physicians in private practices are more likely to use single-dose vials. It’s the multi-dose vials that contain the highest level of Thimerosal: 50 mcg. for the adult dose and 25 mcg. for the pediatric dose. That means when a pregnant woman gets a flu shot from her local health department, Walmart, CVS, University Health Center, etc… her tiny fetus is being injected with levels of toxic mercury that are hundreds of times above the “safe limit” (as defined by the EPA).

    If the fetus survives and if he/she is vaccinated again at six months, 18 months and every year after that, and if those vaccines are administered from multi-dose vials, he or she is getting a whopping dose of mercury every year.

    Myth dispelled. There is still mercury in the vaccines given to infants and children. They just changed the schedule and adjusted the dose so that now, infants are getting their doses of mercury at a much earlier stage of neurological development, and when their body weight is significantly lower, which makes the dose per pound much higher.
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    Full article: https://healthfreedomidaho.org/yes-there-still-is-mercury-in-vaccines/
     
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    Lol :p.
     
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    In post #148 I gave you a link to the UK medical science board report that DQ'd Wakefield for LYING and for purposefully causing his results to be false.

    Then, you come at me wth more of this unsubstantiated nonsense???

    ==> Either find flaws in their analysis of Wakefield's work or admit that it has be be discarded - like ALL of medical science believes that it must be discarded.
     
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    Cool, and there's pilots who believe the earth is flat. Doesn't mean they're right. Again, please provide a peer reviewed study that proves the link of autism to vaccines.
     
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    I think someone with a PhD in immunology saying that the science on vaccines is wrong is not something to take notice of. She's the only immunologist I know who has decided that the supposed science on vaccines is wrong. Seriously, she knows a lot and it shows in her book.
     
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    That should be a clue that she maybe wrong. You seriously think the other several thousand scientists related to the field haven't done their own research? Again, there are pilots who believe the earth is flat despise the many instruments, gushes, and established science saying otherwise. Who should I believe? The one pilot who says the earth is flat or repeated and well documented experiments and studies stating otherwise?
     
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    So, all the other imunologists are wrong?

    Really?

    But, we need to start from the beginning.

    Are you ready to give up Wakefield now that I've posted the analysis of the work that disqualified him from science?

    I've pointed out that you were wrong about Boyd Haley and I've shown why Wakefield's work actually got him booted.

    If you agree with this progress, I'll look into your new champion who knows more than all other immunologists(!)
     
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    This is a criticism of the PROCESS being used for certifying medicine 20 years ago.

    Those accusations no longer form a basis for criticism of vaccines of today.

    Specifically, the sample size can not be GIGANTIC (like, more than just the USA) since these vaccines have been used throughout the world. And, the time period can be DECADES not 4 weeks.

    Beyond that, claiming that scientists are prevented from examining this history is ridiculous.

    In fact, your SAME POST states that a scientific organization did related studies (though again 20 years ago). It also ignores testing that is required for reformulations of medicines.

    As one can see today with our progress on creating vaccines that may have effectiveness against COVID, the testing regimes required a major, including a step wise series starting with theory and animal testing and gradually progressing as candidates are able to pass increasingly stringent testing.


    Anoher point that is very real and is being totally ignored is that people die from these diseases. While there is inherent risk in every kind of medication, the numbr of lives saved by these vaccines we've created is huge. So, one of the factors here is that of measuring when it is justified to beging using these medicines.

    These articles you site are rife with a focus on micrograms while failing to indicate ANY level at which concern should begin. AND, they totally ignore the huge number of lives and suffering saved compared to cases where the outcome was negative in some way. Medicine is ALWAYS going to have some sort of negative eaction in someone somewhere.

    It would be preposterous to suggest that fact means we can never create medicine.

    Again, your cites are ignoring ALL these issues. And measurement of outcomes is absent even though the volume of available data is gigantic.
     
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    I'm waiting for your response on the individuals and issues in the above..

    Then, if you want to stick with Tetyana Obukhanych, just let me know.
     
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    Why do people always come up with this flat earth canard? Anyway, I'll quote Chapter 5 from her book for those in the audience who might be interested:
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    5. Immunologic Memory Debunked

    Immunologists think they have a solid theoretical explanation of immunity. They claim that natural immunity is the result of immunologic memory to previously encountered pathogens. Equating immunity with immunologic memory is the most important aspect of immunologic dogma. Without this pillar, immunology would have no theory-based grounds for imposing vaccination as a measure of disease prevention. In previous chapters, we saw that immunology has no evidence-based grounds either. Therefore, the theory is its only asset. But even this highly cherished asset has a fatal flaw.

    What exactly is immunologic memory? The textbook defines immunologic memory as the ability of the immune system to generate faster and miore robust antibody production to a previously injected antigen - a biomolecule or a particle of non-self origin - after this antigen is encountered again. Since immunologists typically avoid working with pathogens, the concept of immunologic memory was established without testing it on real bacteria or viruses, but only on isolated proteins.

    Immunologists have figured out that purified protein antigens do not have an ability to induce antibody production in humans or animals (the recipeints) on their own. To induce antibody production, a protein antigen needs to be mixed with an adjuvant - a cytotoxic substance, like aluminum salts or alum - before being injected into the recipients. To generate a boost in antibody production, the recipients need to receive a second injection of the same protein antigen, but this time the inclusion of the adjuvant is optional. The primary response to protein antigens is slow, weak, and adjuvant-dependent, whereas the secondary or tertiary responses (boosters) are faster, greater in magnitude, and adjuvant-independent. This difference between the primary and secondary immune responses forms the concept of immunologic memory.

    One would hope that if the immune system can respond faster the second time around, then maybe the immunity to the disease depends on this faster immune response. However, despite being so attractively logical, this idea turned out to be erroneous upon further investigation. Once immunologists started testing non-protein antigens for induction of immunologic memory, such as polysaccharides or complex particles with reptetitue structures, it turned out that these antigens behave entirely differently. They do not elicit a memorhy response - that is, faster or higher levels of antibody production - even when injected multiple times.

    Most problematic bacteria carry polysaccharide capsules on their surface and all viruses are complex particles repeating surface molecules. Does this mean that real pathogens do not elicit immunologic memory? Exactly! How is then natural immunity to pathogens acquired, if not through immunologic memory? There has to be another explanation for natural immunity, but what is it? After 200 years of research, immunologists still do not have the answer. Moreover, they do not want to acknowledge that they do not have the answer.

    The dogma that equates natural immunity with immunologic memory persists in immunology despite the fact that it is not applicable to real pathogens, and few immunologists warn the rest of the field about this confusion (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16824138/). Meanwhile, the rest of the field apparently ignores those warnings. The number one priority of modern immunologic research has become precisely to perpetuate this false dogma, as it gives rationale to the modern adjuvant- dependent strategy in vaccine design and ensures immunology's monopoly in public health policies. However, the cost of subscribing to immunologic dogma is enormous. It costs us the health of our children. The next chapter will explain why.

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    Obukhanych, Tetyana. Vaccine Illusion . Kindle Edition.
     
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    You're dodging again!

    We can get to the issues with this author, but bouncing from topic to topic as a method of protecting yourselff from the issues is NOT something that I'm ready to support.

    ==>Tell me about the review of WAKEFIELD's work - the work that got him totally disqualified as a memer of the science community.

    I went to the work of giving you the official results of the review of his work, which carefully lines out why he got booted.

    YOU owe an answer before bouncing off to some other fake scientist.
     
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    That pregnant woman consumed more mercury from the fish she ate last night. And once again, thimerisal is not in vaccines given to infants
     
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    Already did that in post #154.
     
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    Article just said that they do, but by all means, prove them wrong if you can.
     
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    Already have given proofs
     
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    Where?
     
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    https://www.vaxxed.com/stories-categorized-by-vaccine/

    https://vaccine-injury.info/about.cfm
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    "My daughter squealed like a rabbit, arching her back, for 20 hours straight after her DPT vax in 1989. She then slumped into an exhausted sleep for a further 20 hours. When she awoke she looked through us, not at us, didn't smile and had no facial expressions. Was like a shell of a human, with her humanness gone. She had lost her ability to crawl, to reach for items and today she is 28 years old, autistic, and unable to care for herself, function well as an adult - cannot cross a road on her own. DPT damaged her before Gardasil and MMR came along. Gardasil and MMR are WORSE... much worse..." -Peta Daimyo
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    My son was NOT born with brain damage. He had eye contact and attention before the month, he was smiling by 1 month, babbling by 2-3 months, turning by 4 months, sitting and crawling by 6 months, standing by 8 months, walking by 11 months. Also by 11 months he was saying mama, papa, abu, bye, hi and other simple single words. He would look when he was called by his name, he would socialize and play with others. He would listen to music and dance. His development was going as it was expected for a child his age. By 12 months he receive many vaccines, I didn't want to do it; but I was ignorant and forced by the pediatrician he had back then. Immediately we noticed the side effects, one week in and out of the hospital, almost lost him. After that week he was not the same child, all the development: motor, speech, social, everything gone. It was like having an NB again but this NB couldn't tolerate any noise (didn't bother him before), stopped eating, allergies (he didn't had allergies before the vaccines), sensory problems (he didn't have them before), meltdowns (and not the expected meltdown for a 12 month child), gastro intestinal problems (again not before), and the list continue. Yet, no doctor wanted to take responsibility, no doctor wanted to say back then that he was injured by the vaccines.
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    Suzanne Fuhri
    wrote "5 years ago today I made the BIGGEST mistake of my life. I took My Son to have him poisoned (vaccinated). I didn't know that it would be the last time I seen him smile and didn't know he would DIE less than 2 days later. My heart hurts. Everyday. VACCINES INJURE & KILL. This is what you were like before they jabbed you with poison. RIP Baby Boy." Tommy 9/28/2012 - 12/1/2012
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    Christina Moore took her happy, healthy 8 month old son Trent to his well baby visit at Seymour Medical Center in Seymour, TN. He passed away in the night, less than 13 hours after his mother was bullied at the doctors office to give him 5 vaccines, even though she only felt comfortable with one at a time.
    Christina wrote "I argued with the nurse practitioner for 30-45 minutes. They would not split the shots up! They bullied me, told me I was retarded, told me he needed all the shots that day, told me they could not split the shots up, told me it absolutely would not hurt him! He was injected with 4 needles and given the Rotavirus oral vaccine. He died less than 13 hours later. I'm upset that I argued with them and they bullied me into something that I did not want in the first place and the same thing that I told them might happen, did happen!"

    She was not even given an apology when she went to pick up his medical records and saw the person who did this. A claim was filed with the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program but since the parents couldn't find an expert witness to prove Trent died from the vaccines, they settled their case for $20,000 before it went to trial. They had one of the best lawyers and still almost lost any chance at receiving any compensation. More than 2 out of 3 claims are denied and parents have to prove the vaccines harmed their child. That's what his life was worth to those responsible. Most never see a penny. Trent's younger sister he never got to meet is vaccine free. Trent is greatly loved and missed. They said he died of unknown reasons. Trent Michael Blackburn 4/29/12-12/21/12
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    Review Of Critical Vaccine Studies: 400 Important Scientific Papers Summarized
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    No.

    We have had vaccines for a long time, administered hundreds of millions of times.

    So, we KNOW how our vaccines perform.

    You can't assault that with claims of what elements are in vaccines.

    And, Wakefield's work was garbage from the start. It wasn't just wrong. It was purposefully wrong.

    But, that doesn't matter anymore, because like all medications vaccines are reformulated when improvements in safety and effectiveness are developed.

    And again, they have been tested by the MASSIVE administration of these solutions.
     

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