The wealthy and corporations will pay their "fair share", if Biden is elected

Sadly, working out a Welfare State is difficult.

My own personal income is about $300 - $400 per month. I donate 10% of my income to Jewish charities -- as the Law of Talmud mandates.

 

There's no such thing as 'limited' socialism. If it's not 100% it doesn't work.

I think what you're referring to is particular spending (on 'social' programs). That has nothing to do with socialism.

 

Biden, like Clinton & Obama are Wall St. Democrats.
Main St. no longer has any Party representation.

The wealthy and corporations will pay their "fair share",
if Biden is elected.

No Way!​

Biden is no Sanders.


Moi

Make
Pay It' Fair Share!​

 

You've no idea what you are talking about here. First Corporations in California, (and other states, for that matter,) do not pay less property taxes than individuals because of prop 13 but rather because those corporations offer large scale employment to hundreds of people and the tax value those hundreds add through, their own property taxes either through the rent they pay or buying things via the sales taxes and there own income tax plus dozens of other taxes they pay directly or indirectly completely offsets the loss in property taxes from the corporation. Not to mention what you get from corporate taxes. Note if those corporations aren't their not only do you not get any of that money, you stuck with a homeless glut. And ever increasing welfare payment. By the way California's homeless problem, the largest in the nation, is the direct result of rent control, that favor single dwellings over apartment complexes.

 

Limited Socialism is a system in which all people have a Constitutional Right to

-- food
-- shelter
-- medical care

 

Sadly, hundreds of thousands of people are dying from preventable causes. Saving their lives will require higher tax levels.

 

That's not what socialism is - at all. That's just capitalism funding certain services.

Socialism is the earning of one's keep. Work to eat, and the work comes first. NO ONE gets to be carried except the very young, the very old, and the sick (as long as that sickness isn't self-inflicted .. which is a fail in terms of earning one's keep).

 

Budgets and deficits are a function of the Congress not the President. What happened to the debt under Republican Congresses 1995 - 2007 versus Democrat Congresses 2008 - 2015. And don't include 2020 in any of your Trump numbers as that one will forever have a COVID asterisk but let's keep in mind it is the Democrats clamoring for even more spending and if we get Biden it will be HUGELY more spending and HUGELY more debt. We saw how Biden and Obama steered us through the last recession and recovery and it was a total disaster. We are recovering under Trump for a government shutdown collapsing the economy FAR faster than the experts predicted. The Biden stimulus, he was in charge of it, instead of holding unemployment at 8% and then quickly dropping saw it shot to 10% and and stayed over 8% for the next three years and then only slowing trickled down while the LFPR went over the cliff or it would have been registered at higher. We are already under 8% and it's not even the end of the year. People have confidence in the economy and far more now say they are better off than 4 years ago than they did with Biden and Obama.

 

Which is int EVERYTHING.

 

It's EVERYTHING in excess of what others have. So you would have no motive to earn anything beyond that. You said you would work to have more money, but once you had as much as others, work would not get you any more.

GET IT???

 

Garbage. I have stated the relevant facts and their logical implications.

You do not know what you are talking about. Proposition 13 specifically benefits corporations at the expense of taxpayers because corporations hold property for very long periods, thus benefiting from the Prop 13 cap on assessment increases as long as the property is owned by the same owner. Moreover, titles can be effectively transferred between corporations without changing the registered owner or raising the assessment back up to market by making the owning corporation into a shell that just owns the property, and then having the shell corporation bought by the corporation that wants to buy the property.

No, that is just you makin' $#!+ up. Other taxes are levied for reasons that have nothing to do with property taxes.

More garbage. Corporations are just a convenient form of ownership. The same level of economic activity would be going on without them.

GARBAGE. By capping assessment increases unless the property is sold, Prop 13 makes land more valuable to the current owner than to developers.

 

It also has to be voluntary, like the Israeli kibbutzim and the Mondragon co-operative.

 

All additional taxes do is cause government to spend and run right back for more. It already spends too much.

 

Nonsense all of it nonsense. You have sighted bilge from dubious, at best, left wing sources completely missed most of the points I made. Either that or English language. You would not have the same economic activity without corporations. Other wise states wouldn't be cutting deals on property taxes to get them to move into the state in the first place. It isn't just individual s fleeing California in record numbers it is businesses and corporations Elon Musk being only the biggest name. Name the last movie that was shot in California. And figure out why that is. When it is cheaper to fly your cast somewhere else to shoot a movie than it is to do it there you've got a problem and it isn't property taxes.

 

It would still get me more.

 

How?

 

That's nothing but infantile "Meeza hatesa gubmint!" nonsense.

 

By making more.

 

I don't hate government. I simply understand that it is oversized, incompetent and corrupt. I would love to have good one instead. Nothing much more infantile that the words you have following the word infantile above.

 

Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

 

You wouldn't get to keep any more than others have. I'm not sure there is any clearer or simpler way to explain that to you.

 

LOL! Yet somehow, in international comparisons, quality of life is directly related to size of government as a fraction of GDP.

As long as you don't have to pay for it....?

 

Except I would, I don't know why you think the govt would take everything.