Obama Slams Trump, Stumps for Biden During Speech in Philadelphia

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Former President Barack Obama slammed President Donald Trump and stumped for Joe Biden during a drive-in rally in Philadelphia early Wednesday evening.
    “Donald Trump isn’t suddenly going to protect all of us," Obama said. "He can’t even take the basic step to protect himself.”
    Speaking in front of the South Philadelphia Sports Complex, Obama criticized Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
    "We literally left this White House a pandemic playbook," Obama said. "We don't know where that playbook went. They probably used it to prop up a wobbly table or something."
    Obama also pointed out Trump's alleged bank account in China.
    "Listen, can you imagine if I had a secret Chinese bank account when I was running for re-election? You think Fox News might’ve been a little concerned about that? They would’ve called me Beijing Barry," he said.


    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/new...ly-in-bid-to-boost-turnout-for-biden/2569719/

    Wow. Obama really excoriated Trump today.

    Glad to see President Obama get out there and say the things that need to said.

    He really got under Trump's skin.

    I wonder how soon it will be before Trump lashes out at Obama?
     
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    how many people heard Obama's racist insults, maybe 6? how many of them understood them without an english to spanish translator?
     
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    Me too. The results of his campaigning for Hillary, Gillum and Nelson in Florida, Stacey Abrams in Georgia were nothing short of spectacular.
     
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    Also, it shows their hand. Why would he feel the need to campaign for Biden literally two weeks before the election, if the internal polling was strong?

    It's not as strong as the media has been relaying, and I think this tips that hand.
     
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    Yep. In Pennsylvania of all places. Trump is behind by 10%s they claim, yet Obama campaigns in a predominantly democratic state Biden calls home.
     
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    How many people attended? 25,18,20?
     
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    Indeed, if they wanted to run up the margins they would've targeted Texas(like they did in pouring in the O'Rouke race). This tells me they want to shore up Pennsylvania, as they can't afford another collapse of the blue wall(Mid-northeastern States)
     
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    Obama is Biden's "secret weapon"

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    Obama is irrelevant. He preaches to the converted.

    Why do you suppose Obama wouldn’t endorse his VP until everyone dropped out of the race? It is meaningless and he didn’t want to embarrass himself, that’s why.
     
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    Yeah... And that's about 68% of the population. If he converts all the "converted"... I would say that would constitute a "mandate" for Biden, don't you think?

    You actually don't know why? Because Obama is the iconic figure of the Democratic Party. If he weighs in, it's game over. But the Democratic Party is... democratic. At least as far as Obama is concerned.
     
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    From where did you pull that figure? Democrat senators and congressmen running for re-election in.various parts of the country asked Obama to not endorse them when he was POTUS.

    He lucked out because the Republicans nominated the two worst candidates to run against him in Romney and McCain.
     
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    Obama didn't stump for biden, he stumped for the DNC.
     
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    Obama who?
     
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    Which is smart, and it is how they can secure the win. Why are you berating the strategy? That's exactly what Hillary did not do, and lost. So, they learned their lessons from 2016, and are doing better now. Apparently most of those 386 million dollars Biden raised lately, went to TV ads and campaign appearances in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. If they win these three states, good bye Trump.
     
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    Hillary spent her money in Wisconsin(where, it wasn't needed.). Generally speaking(see: NY/CA in 2016), running up the score in States you already own isn't needed. It's called the law of diminishing returns. Especially if they really were up 10 in Pennsylvania, you could call Pennsylvania safely blue.

    I'd put the money where the margin of error is +/- 5 percentage points. That's where the leaks are, but also the opportunities if I smell blood in the water(IE: Texas)

    Running it up in Pennsylvania, doesn't amount to much.

    (The Law of Diminishing returns is the same philosophy behind Trump's withdrawing campaign money in certain States. There's no reason to spend money for example in the aforementioned Pennsylvania.)

    If we treat it akin to a modern day military game, it's about finding the cracks where your army of poll workers, etc, ads, can slip in for the win.
     
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    Whether the polling has dropped or risen is irrelevant. Obama is out because of the importance of the election. He would be campaigning either way.
     
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    In a strong state like PA? I'd do it in a swing state that I could possibly win, but that's just me.
     
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    PA is a swing state.

    And it was just one speech.
     
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    To me, a swing state is something within the margin error of 5, Biden's up 10. It's not even a swing state for Trump. It's safely blue unless people literally red pill on Election Day.
     
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    It's a swing state because of 2016. It's also 20 EV, IIRC. I'm sure Obama isn't finished, and I'm sure the campaign targeted PA for a reason.
     
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    The Messiah sure was swell !!!
     
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    You are not thinking of the Electoral College.
    If Biden wins Michigan, Pennsylvannia, and Wisconsin, it's game over for Trump.
    Biden will not lose the truly blue states like New York and California, etc. He can just conserve the states Hillary won, and even lose one of them, as long as he wins these three, and he's POTUS. 4% behind in Texas, pour a lot of money there? And lose anyway? Nah, he needs to conserve and secure his Rust Belt advantage, and that will be quite enough to get to 270. He shouldn't take anything for granted in the Rust Belt. Remember 2016?

    It's actually a simple and effective strategy: conserve Hillary's states and win back the Rust Belt. Done. Yes, pour some money elsewhere too just to keep Trump busy there trying to defend his territory. But the election will be won in the Rust Belt.

    I think Biden's campaign strategy is just perfect.
     
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    I see it differently. 4% is not a huge margin at all, and if you want to defeat Trump, winning Texas would be a HUGE step in that direction. Plus, what was the point in all of that investment in Texas, just for Democrats to abandon it?

    I just think putting an effort towards a state that can truly swing, rather than a State that's absolutely safe is more important. You want to snag up as many "up for grab" States as you can, I'd be advising Trump of the same thing, where he's within the margin of error to simply go for it and snag a few.
     
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