What will you do if Biden is elected?

If Biden wins I will remember my blessings, understand that God is in control...and as what usually happens when my world falls apart, I will get closer to my creator. Hopefully I can make an effort to do that if Trump wins. So easy to not appreciate the good when you have it.

My husband is talking about and moving off grid is Biden wins but we are too old for that.

 

Unfortunately you are not the only one that puts personality above politics. I have this "discussion" with my own wife who despises Trump but will grudgingly vote for him because I have made her think of exactly what the alternative means for America.
Trump is not the most likeable guy or the best communicator. We live in an imperfect world and Trump like all of us has his flaws but policy is my one and only concern when voting and I agree with 90% of what Trump has done as president.
Voting against Trump means you vote for Biden and ultimately a Kamala presidency which would destroy America. I'll take the "unlikable" guy and the America I love every time over the alternative .

 

Better check your facts. Get back to me afterwards.

 

Sorry - this is a totally pet peeve of mine. Women are too stupid to think for themselves so they need their husband's to explain it to them.........? Of course, some women want to be told how to think so maybe it works for your relationship.

 

I've thought the same. It's in God's hands. My fervent hope is we beat back the evil of Marxism that is on the verge of consuming America but if we don't so be it.
There's a war between good and evil in the universe and sometimes evil prevails. I view America as a bulwark in that war and if we fall dark days are ahead for mankind.

As for living off grid, modern technology has made that fairly easy. We are old retired people and have been off grid with our nearest neighbor miles away and love it out here. When snow, wind or ice storms make everyone else lose power we don't miss a beat. Theres no greater feeling than being self sufficient.

 

Women tend to be more emotional than men. Without me pointing out the consequences of voting based on emotion my wife would likely vote for Biden.

 

I hope you're right about the economy but I see it a little differently. Unemployment is rising, evictions and foreclosures are on the rise, and small businesses are in dire straits and closing. I'm also factoring in the global economy. Our government, our taxpayer dollars that we pay need to be reinvested in our communities and our citizens to help stabilize the bleeding. WS is only as strong as the citizens that are buying. We stop buying and the supply and demand shuts down.

 

You totally made me smile and laugh out loud. I agree, women lead with the heart and men lead with their head...... I'll leave it to you to figure out which one I'm talking about. (grin)

 

Covid shutdown is doing more harm than good

 

The promised tax hikes make a quick sell off mandatory. Those gains will flow into investments chosen to mitigate the high tax rates.
More central planning will create endless opportunities for lobbyists to buy tax breaks and other favors from our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class.

"Business views the political system as a source of business advantage. Anything can be a business advantage-- a subsidy, a tax break, an entry barrier, a spurt in the rate of economic growth, a government purchase, a regulatory move that hurts a competitor, etc."

"Thus business's agenda has an open-ended mercurial, opportunistic character. If one strategy for gaining a benefit gets nowhere, it is soon dropped in favor of a project with better prospects. As a result, companies and trade associations never know who their allies and enemies will be in the future. That is why business likes to go along with those in power and hates to oppose them."
THE SUICIDAL CORPORATION, How Big Business Fails America, Paul H. Weaver, Simon and Schuster Inc. 1988., p. 166.

 

At it's worse (Hawaii) it's 15.1%. About 10m have dropped off labor rolls (and so wouldn't be accounted for in employment numbers) due to being unemployed for over 6 months. All the protests happening right now? Where do you think all those folk got the free time?

 

There is no comprehensive shutdown. There are guidelines that scientists have asked citizens to adhere to and there are pockets of areas and venues that have been given restrictions to adopt but only if the Governors will enforce them. Some States are following the guidelines and policies in an effort to strangle the virus but others are not. Until we are all united to fight this virus we will continue to see a rotation of it spreading throughout the country in peaks and valleys until a vaccine can be widely and regularly dispensed.

I seriously do not understand why working together is so controversial.

 

Because Trump wanted to make China look bad ahead of trade negotiations. He took no action and ridiculed other nations that did in an attempt to make this look like an exclusively Chinese problem. When his inaction led to mass infections and deaths he started downplaying the severity to avoid falling into the same trap he had planned for China and because of his cult of personality a certain segment of the population took it as gospel. So here we are. Trump supporters not able to see any fault in Trump vs. everyone else.

 

Science is supposed to be data driven but it's snot.

"The Lancet paper that halted global trials of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19 because of fears of increased deaths has been retracted after a Guardian investigation found inconsistencies in the data.

The lead author, Prof Mandeep Mehra, from the Brigham and Women’s hospital in Boston, decided to ask the Lancet for the retraction because he could no longer vouch for the data’s accuracy.

Related: How were medical journals and WHO caught out over hydroxychloroquine?

The journal’s editor, Richard Horton, said he was appalled by developments. “This is a shocking example of research misconduct in the middle of a global health emergency,” he told the Guardian."
THE GUARDIAN, Covid-19: Lancet retracts paper that halted hydroxychloroquine trials, By Sarah Boseley Health editor, June 5, 2020.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-paper-that-halted-hydroxychloroquine-trials

Fake Science is now very common and very dangerous. Alas.

 

At least once a week I locate missing eyeglasses, which are on my head or hooked on my shirt. It's still not as common as looking for a missing item by checking under the cat, but it's close.

 

nope, I am not like Trump

 

I agree that if all the data isn't made available it is bad science. I'm surprised the Lancet published the data without having it independently peer reviewed. Maybe I'm missing some key information. Some times medical journals will publish with a disclaimer in order to get the information out to the scientific community. The problem lies with the general public reading these journals and translating it into something the science community would know not to do.

 

On a smaller scale we do ok. My husband can seem to fix anything, and if he cant find a screw or part he makes it with his garage full of tools. When we had an ice storm years back that blacked out the city for days, we learned the value of natural gas and wood burning stoves. Those poor people who depended on all electricity were in bad shape....

 

Lancet and the NEJM both ran with that Fake Science. They have been corrupted.

The "replication crises" is real. Science is broken.

"If the replication crisis is a sign that science isn’t broken, then what does “broken” even mean?
In the stem-cell case, self-correcting science did appear to work as advertised: Problems in the paper were discovered by attentive colleagues shortly after it appeared in print. But the recent history of science fraud suggests that many more examples come to light not quickly and not via any standard self-corrective mechanism—e.g., peer review or unsuccessful replications—but rather at a long delay and through the more conventional means of whistleblowing. That’s how Diedrik Stapel, a notorious fabulist with 58 retracted papers in social psychology, was discovered in 2011. The fact that Stapel’s brazen fraud had not been caught (or self-corrected) earlier made his case a seminal event in the current replication crisis. Why had no one noticed, in strictly scientific terms, all the false effects that he’d slipped into the literature?"
SLATE: SCIENCE, Is Science Broken? Or is it self-correcting? By Daniel Engber, Lisa Larson-Walker, AUG. 21 2017.
http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...is_not_self_correcting_science_is_broken.html

 

Husbanding a wife is about half as effective as when a wife decides to wife a husband, but that seldom involves politics - directly.

 

I'll accept the scourge that God has allowed for our narcissistic and greedy generation. I am prepared. It will be decades before they reach the mountains where I live.

 

If you guys would have been smart enough to nominate a Kasich or a Rubio back in 2016, you wouldn't be looking at this problem.

 

Portfolio was my first thought. I haven't dabbled in individual stocks in a while. I've already started liquidating mutual funds in favor of cash and ETFs. If Trump wins there will be plenty of time to make up for the missed opportunity. If Biden wins I don't want to be the guy waiting to find out how low my portfolio can go before a sale is consummated.

 

Hillary would have already sold the country to Xi for a $1T donation to the Clinton Foundation. We wouldn't be worrying about the 2020 election is right.