Fauci: Trump Hasn't Shown Up For Covid Brifings

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  1. Egoboy

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    You do know that means a likely end to the Senate Legislative filibuster, correct? I'm for rebalancing the SCOTUS as well, but nothing will get done with a simple Senate majority with that ridiculous 60 vote rule to even allow a vote, so I suspect that will go with the first important obstruction of a perfectly valid bill.

    We don't need more obstructions to voting in this country...
     
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    Trump was only about being in the spotlight, he couldn't care less how many die from covid

    he gave this issue to Pence, but as soon as he saw Pence getting so much attention with the daily task force briefings he kicked him to the curb
     
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    Here's my thoughts as it surrounds the Court: The State is us(the people), and we are the State. Our legislators should theoretically be crafting our laws based on how our society wants to behave and live in accordance to(this of course is academic theory, reality is very much differently sadly.) The Court does not(despite Barrett's best wishes) act as an independent actor, but rather it interferes with the State.

    By virtue of its position as the "Supreme Court", it has superceded the constitution and become a life unto itself. The SCOTUS wasn't even a part of our founding documents, it was one of our first legislative works in our country and one that Thomas Jefferson lamented.

    The easiest thing that will never happen, is the abolishment of the court. Because so long as there are liberal justices and conservative justices(and there are indeed said justices, Mr. Roberts), the court cannot be purified by the view of the State(which is the superior body)

    The State doesn't need to be in conflict with the court, the people do not have to live their lives to a verdict or a ruling. It's sufficient to have civil and criminal courts(or federal courts for crimes that are on the federal level), the supreme court is a hinderance to our country not an asset.
     
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    Are you following any of their suggestions?
     
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    The only concern that I have about nuking the filibuster is if the Senate is 51-49 or 50/50 (with Harris as VP) and somebody like Joe Manchin (and others) refuse to go along.
     
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    I wear a mask whenever I go out and in close proximity with people, I wash my hands frequently. Literally, I do what I can while putting it into proper prospective. It was used as a political weapon against Trump, it's succeeded. Okay, we move on. But since Trump was the ultimate bad, I expect government to be the ultimate good, gooder then it ever was.

    After all, he was the one evil dude who ruined it all! One could argue that I'm being childish and unfair, but I want to show people what I went through for four years of this crap. Be perfect or its short.
     
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    Well, I still say that's better long term than not allowing votes to happen... Hopefully, before the vote gets to the final stage, Manchin (or Sinema or Doug Jones - I still have my fingers crossed for that poor dude) will express their opposition to whatever they don't like, and there is a chance to work in something they will, that the other D's can live with.

    But I'd still rather have a few votes fail than have little voted on for 4 years...
     
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    So they did something for you.
     
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    I think we will be surprised by Republican votes if the Dems take the Senate.
    For example: I think the stimulus would pass if Mitch would allow a vote.
     
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    No, I did something for myself(and the same can be done for everyone.) According to projected stats, 69% of people wear a mask. This idea that people are gung-ho and don't care, just isn't true. It's not even true amongst most Trump supporters. Would it be better if that 69% number were higher? Probably.

    How much better? That's the unknown variable.
     
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    “We’re doing testing and tracing”

    Yea... individual states are. We don’t have a national response
     
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    If there is a higher power, that decision will not be his to make ever again during my lifetime.... or his...

    I highly doubt I will be surprised.... even with Trump gone, Trumpism still remains in the body location that should contain a heart in whatever is left of the Republican Senate 2021.

    Who among that lot would you trust to vote on a bill, instead of against a party?

    Mitt? Sasse? Lil Marco?

    Maybe, No, and No...
     
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    Here's something I do truly agree with Trump on...

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-votes-says-person-process-145300284.html

    I really wish the D's would have pushed a little harder on early in-person voting over mail in voting. Trump pretty much guaranteed the 2nd process would be **** this year, but he really cannot affect the former..

    That's what we did...
     
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    And these are old farts in Florida yesterday.
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    A 'national response'. As much as I want a centralized government, we don't have one and we'd never have one under a Trump Administration because remember, the Left made a big hoopla about "OMG, Trump wants a vaccine before the election it's NOT SAFE!"

    Coming from the same people who claimed Trump damaged the institutions. You couldn't find more glaring examples of hypocrisy.
     
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    Trump damaging the institutions that would provide a national response is not a valid argument against having one
     
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    It's not an argument, it's literally the reality that was sprouted by Kamala Harris. Trump did not make them say these things. Trump didn't make them act in ways that would undermine their own institutions. When Trump is gone, and they are left on their own ruins, they will have no one to blame but themselves and that introspection will be interesting.
     
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    The CDC BEFORE Trump was the Gold Standard for disease control.

    Not so now ...Redfield is Trump's (beleaguered) appointee and the White House has been interfering in their messaging and operation right along

    What does that say?
     
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    'The WH has been interfering in their messaging'. HOW? If anything, the doctors themselves don't know. It lasts on tables, etc oh wait, no it doesn't. It's airborne, oh wait no it isn't, yes it is. HOW do you blame this incompetence on Trump? It's like looking at a systematic failure and saying 'hey, this one little pimple is causing it.'

    The little pimple is not causing our problems. And when we've popped the pimple, it won't be better automatically(there'll be a scar where the pimple was). The solution is to drink the medicine called 'truth', and acknowledging systematic failure and systematic accountability.
     
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    Doesn't matter .............. Trump is always in the way of Progress

    Biden is raking in Huge campaign donations using a " virtual platform "

    Trump would rather bask in the adoration of his small group of fans ................. instead of bringing in money for his campaign
     
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    This old dude is asking for a 3 week deadline to determine the depths of Republican obstructionism...

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/reid-biden-end-senate-filibuster-weeks-73803869

    I bet it doesn't take that long to determine no votes will be found from the Trumpers-4-Life...
     
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    I'll trust Fauci over Trump any day of the week and Sundays too
     
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    It was ignored and is still being ignored
     

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