Secret Service Travel Records Confirm Hunter Biden Trips Detailed In Emails

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    Emails don't matter without proof of payments to the Biden's. You've got no evidence in the least in that regard. You've got nothing. Your emails are just discussions but zero evidence that any criminality of any kind took place. And what was Julienne's roll in obtaining fake evidence. And this will not effect the election.
     
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    Where on your 1040 do you put kickback money from foreign nations?
     
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    Well Joe wouldn’t put it anywhere because it didn’t happen.
     
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    Well the emails seem to highlight that it did happen.....and the FBI seems to think something criminal might of happened as well....hence the money laundering case being opened, collecting Hunter's laptop, and interviewing their former business partner.....
     
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    You might want to read this. Your narrative has been debunked.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...b-bobulinski-records”.580170/#post-1072150627
     
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    True.

    Neither were Bat Boy, Bigfoot, or the Roswell Aliens.

    Good lookin' out.
     
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    There is literally no evidence that Joe Biden received any money from this. And even if he did, so what? He wasn’t VP at the time and as we’ve been told repeatedly over the last 4 years it isn’t illegal to be a businessman with international interests.
     
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    Yes....neither were they investigated by the FBI for money laundering like the Bidens and John Gotti
     
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    Not so fast...the emails show that he was to get a cut....10 percent on one deal

    Getting kick backs is illegal...so is money laundering.....at best, maybe it wasn[t...but he was still beholden to the Commuist Chinese Party...who wants a President beholden to the Communist Chinese Party? It could certainly explain why he was so friendly to China and stood up for them so often

    You don't know how long this sort of thing was going on...we don't know...that's why law enforcement is conducting their investigation
     
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    Having a business interest is not illegal. It is not a kickback. Doing business with Chinese companies is not illegal.

    Or - if you think those things are illegal, why aren’t you criticizing trump?
     
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    Sure in and of itself it isn't.....but kickbacks for policies influence is....and laundering said money is...hence why the FBI opened a case.

    Even if they didn't violate the law, I really just don't want a President that is beholden to China. It explains a lot though...Biden's weird and awkward defense of all things China....and why the Chinese are actively attempted to interfere in our election on Biden's behalf

    Trump isn't doing any business with the Chinese.
     
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    What? Trump took 15 million from China in 2017. The year he took office.
    He is the one beholden to China.
    If you really cared about that you would want trump to release his taxes.

    How could it have been a kickback when Biden wasn’t VP at the time?
     
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    Source?

    Nah China dislikes Trump, he's been very hard on them....but it's paid off for the USA...in particular are Ag Sector who saw record high purchases from the Chinese this year.

    I don't care about his taxes, tax returns don't really show much other then what someone made in one year
     
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    The HAVE the records of the payments from Russia and China and the emails stating the 10% with go to Joe and that he was aware of everything at all points and was giving his approval and advice to his son and brother and they both had to check with him in decisions. And that you think the low bar is criminality says quite a bit.

    Have the Biden's issued a denial that it is Hunterse laptop and that the emails are real. Until you have that you have nothing. Even if the deal fell through we know the intent Hunter just wasn't very good at it which is why he had to refer to "the big guy" for decisions on what to do.
     
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    Because another PRIVATE company bought out Trump International Hotels Management?
    "
    Potentially one explanation for the spike, listed on public disclosures only as “management fees and other contract payments” was the buyout of its management contract for the hotel in SoHo, renamed the same year as The Dominick. Bloomberg reported the buyout to have cost approximately $6 million.

    Garten did not confirm the Bloomberg estimate but acknowledged that the buyout was a “significant portion” of the company’s revenue unrelated to China."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...ar15-million-mysteriously-in-2017/ar-BB1agnK4

    And as Trump said last night in the debate, it wasn't secret the management company which does business all around the world account in China was listed. This is nothing more than the NYT desparate trying to come up with anything to try and mitigate Biden's HUGE problems and divert from reporting on them to hide it from you.
     
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    So you are accusing this former naval officer of lying? He took his evidence today and voluntarily went to the FBI to give his statement and supporting evidence to them. It's not Trump who called Biden the big that was Hunter.
     
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    There is no formal investigation announced by the FBI . Until you have that you have nothing
    But Please show me the cash amounts that have been paid with the names of the payees. Also site the illegalities of each payment.
     
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    Yes there is and it started as a money laundering and one of the NAME persons in the email chain was interviewed yesterday and turned over more evidence to them.

    We have seen the $3.5 million transfer from Russia. The Senate investigation got the bank records and confirmed it.

    Hunter Biden was paid $3.5 million by Russian oligarch - when Joe was VP - to open doors for her construction business in America, her brother claims
    • Russia's richest woman Yelena Baturina has refused to discuss her alleged payment of $3.5 million to Hunter Biden
    • The 57-year-old, whose estimated fortune is around $1.3 billion, told DailyMail.com she was 'not interested' in explaining the alleged consultancy fee
    • But her brother Viktor Baturin, 63, claims the money was 'a payment to enter the American market'
    • The US Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee said Baturina wired the money to a bank account held by Hunter's company in 2014
    • It would be considered illegal to try to influence a public official into creating policies that would favor Hunter's interests
    • Joe Biden has flatly denied his 50-year-old son had received the Russian's money
    • As Baturina refuses to answer comments about the payment, she is nowhere to be seen at her palatial five story multi-million dollar home in London
    • The ultra-wealthy 57-year-old has long been dogged by corruption allegations
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...den-did-open-doors-business-enter-market.html

     
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    Why would Russia help Trump? Both Hillary and "Big Guy gets 10%" Joe were part of an administration that refused to sell weapons to the Ukraine after the Russian invaded Crimea. Trump actually sold them weapons, so why would Russia support the guy selling weapons to kill their soldiers?
     
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    Most of all there is zero evidence of illegality. Also what does this have to do with the fact that Joe Biden is widening his lead against Trump.
    Also Donald Trump and his company the Trump Organization have widespread business interests around the world, several of which have been connected by reports to [/QUOTE]

    So this is just a claim who cares! Not a shred of evidence from the FBI just pure right wing crap and by the way Hunter isn't running for president. But Trump is and Joe Biden is gaining on him in the polls
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    • Lol it means nothing it's "alleged" payment. . This is a nothing Burger. Trump is accused of money laundering and Joe B isn't Joe Biden's poll margins are increasing

    • So she won't confirm the right wing conspiracy Also Biden's margin of victory is growing.
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      The cowards do not show evidence of a wire transfer so it's B.S
    • You mean like when Trump asked Ukraine's president to investigate Joe Biden as a favor before sending the Missiles he requested. And by the way what does this have to do with Joe Biden who is way ahead of Trump in the polls

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      But Trump has flatly denied money laundering in his own case and he's actualy loosing the presidential race.
    • Also nowhere to be seen is proof of any money transfer to Hunter Biden. But remember its Joe Biden that Trump is loosing against
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    All B.S. there is no official FBI investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden for that matter. You've got nothing.

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/
    The Senate report falsely alleges that Hunter Biden had a financial relationship with Russian businesswoman Yelena Baturina and that he received $3.5 million from Baturina. Hunter Biden was not a co-founder of Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC (“RST”) nor did he have an equity interest in RST, so the claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”
    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-drugs-corruption-panama-hotel-money-laundering-714891
    Trump Made Millions of Dollars From Drug Money Laundering in Panama: Report
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-drugs-corruption-panama-hotel-money-laundering-714891
     
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    We have seen the $3.5 million transfer from Russia. The Senate investigation got the bank records and confirmed it.

    Hunter Biden was paid $3.5 million by Russian oligarch - when Joe was VP - t
     
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    There is no formal investigation into Hunter Biden by the FBI and you have no proof as such. So quit misleading everyone about what we both no is not true.

    There is no evidence and once again you prove it by showing us 0 evidence.
    There is no formal investigation against Joe Biden and Hunter Biden by the FBI.

    Who's we. You have seen nothing and you know it.. You show no proof of a transfer neither has the Senate committee.. It's also been proven that no such transfer occurred.

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/
    "The Senate report falsely alleges that Hunter Biden had a financial relationship with Russian businesswoman Yelena Baturina and that he received $3.5 million from Baturina. Hunter Biden was not a co-founder of Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC (“RST”) nor did he have an equity interest in RST, so the claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”
    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/

    There is nothing here. Not one piece of physical proof.
    Let me assure you this smear isn't working. The American people are vastly concerned about the ever growing victems of the coronaviris not this silly smear.

    But Trumps corrupt presidency and his total lack of concern about how corona virus is spreading has damaged his chances of winning re-election

    TRump has now claimed he's giving up entirely on fighting the virus and says we're going to have to live with it.
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-covid-united-states-cases-1541615
    Trump Says 'We're Learning to Live' With COVID, As U.S. Close to Breaking Record for New Cases
    BY ARISTOS GEORGIOU ON 10/23/20 AT 7:24 AM EDT

    All B.S. there is no official FBI investigation into Joe Biden and Hunter Biden for that matter. You've got nothing.

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/
    The Senate report falsely alleges that Hunter Biden had a financial relationship with Russian businesswoman Yelena Baturina and that he received $3.5 million from Baturina. Hunter Biden was not a co-founder of Rosemont Seneca Thornton LLC (“RST”) nor did he have an equity interest in RST, so the claim that he was paid $3.5 million is false.”
    https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/28/hunter-biden-senate-report/

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-drugs-corruption-panama-hotel-money-laundering-714891
    Trump Made Millions of Dollars From Drug Money Laundering in Panama: Report
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-drugs-corruption-panama-hotel-money-laundering-714891

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    Yes there is in their letter to Jordan and the fact a NAMED witnesses was interviewed and evidence from him was received. Go read the emails.
     
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    Quit saying that there is an official FBI investigation into Hunter Biden. That's false and you know it. When I ask you to show me the so called evidence you come up with nothing. Once again a nothing Burger. And by the way the number of cases of Coronavirus is increasing at a deadly rate and Trump is saying we need to live with it. This is what people are worried about not some smear campaign. Trump is saying to learn to live with it.
     

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