Does anyone actually have evidence?

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Evidence? Direct or circumstantial? There seems plenty to me, including a confession by Status Quo Joe last year or so, as he told the story about getting the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. That story was recorded, and Joe seemed quite amused by what he admitted to.
     
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    I thought that if Joe was confronted with evidence, he would lie that he said such a thing.

    However, I have been totally wrong about Joe. I don't think he is capable of lying. Lying would require that (1) he recall something and then (2) intentionally say something about it which is not true. He is not capable of step number one because his memory is shot. That is evident from the debate when he denied he would stop fracking.
     
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    Chain of evidence problem. The hard drive went from the possession of Biden to a repair person who accessed the information and had opportunity (and apparently motive, since he turned it over to Guiliani) to alter it before it went to the FBI. Any lawyer could get that evidence excluded from a trial. The FBI knows this.
    Nobody likes to take a case to court where the main evidence will be excluded in pre-trail motions.
     
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    Why? The lefts three year crusade against a sitting president proves that evidence is no longer necessary.
     
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    Three former partners of Hunter have so far admitted that the 'Big Guy' taking 10% of the cut from Hunter's illegally gained fortune is Joe Biden himself and now China is happily releasing a Hunter Biden cocaine and sex video segment per day. Even some leftists should be willing to admit that it at least SEEMS to be evidence.

    I mean they were willing to investigate and then impeach a sitting president over what they already KNEW to be a faked Russian disinformation doccument and 'Pee' tape that never surfaced and yet three separate on the record witnesses and video segment after video segment suddenly IS NOT . . . evidence to them. Gasp! It's almost as if there is a whole lot of hypocrisy going on . . . Left of Center.
     
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    The hard drive would probably never be seen by the jury. It would be excluded in pre-trail motions by the judge. Chain of evidence is a big thing with judges.
     
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    Keeping the jury in the dark is a big thing with judges.
     
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    they will run with it until the election then forget all about it, they know it's lies, they just don't care
     
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    The FBI knew people would buy that chain of evidence fable if they sold it properly, but the timing here went bad and the laptop's existence got out before they could discredit its contents. Bad joss, that one --- the FBI mandarins are displeased. How can they blackmail Biden as President if this scandal means he won't be?

    Extra copies also provide enough leaks that the truth WILL get out. Even when Twitter and Fakebook both run interference. The public may not care and Biden may win. But the truth will have gotten out. In our republic with the leftists we have, maybe that's the best we can do ... if Biden wins.

    Trump wins? Cue the Wagner.

     
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    A meme we've seen a hundred times before. You guys promise the moon but only deliver disappointment.

    Pizza, anyone?
     
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    OP's other thread, a whattabout on Ivanka Trump and her preexisting successful business, includes no evidence whatsoever of any quid pro quo in an Administration persistently hostile to Chinese interests.

    OP demands clear-cut direct evidence here with respect to Hunter Biden though. Of course they do. LOL. They are their own worst enemies in their persistent hypocrisy.

    But putting direct evidence aside for a moment, the circumstantial evidence against the Bidens re Hunter's illegal and other activities is damning. For thousands of years, long before Mata Hari, spies have been leveraging the illegal and scurrilous activities of their political opposition...and their families... in every manner of blackmail scheme. There is no need to directly connect such activities to influence and extortion, the poor judgment alone and the ready availability of compromising opportunities has done in the political aspirations of many over the centuries, and rightfully so. That such a persistent reprobate as Hunter Biden and his incontrovertible, well-documented activities are evidence enough of undue influence and likely coercion.

    Watch "The Good Shepherd" for a dramatized example of such.

    No, Hunter Biden is not running for POTUS, but his activities as the SON of a POTUS candidate do amount to reasonable circumstantial evidence of a massive security breach that should alarm voters. This isn't Bush Daughters getting drunk at a party or Obama daughter smoking a joint, voters recognize the difference and that could rightly color their voting. The extent of the damage is unknown, but there will be damage.
     
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    The media is not protecting Biden as much as they are protecting Obama. There are many who want Michelle on the ticket in 2024. If the Koch-Glitsch scandal is outed, that will not happen.
     
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    Evidence isn’t the point of propaganda.
    Creating the cloud, the fog, the rumors, the innuendo over the target is the point.
     
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    So Trump is innocent of his impeachment charges as he was acquitted by the Senate?
     
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    Is an impeachment a criminal trial?
     
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    Not one impeachment charge against Trump was criminal in nature. In any case impeachment is not a criminal trial. It is just a hearing on whether or not to remove a sitting president.
     
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    FINALLY, some one has spoken the truth: PROTECT OBAMA!!!
     
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    Presidents are impeached for "high crimes and misdemeanors".
     
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    Abuse of power is absolutely a criminal charge.
     
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    No, actually its not.
     
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    So no its not.
     
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    "abuse of power" is a matter of opinion. Not a criminal charge.
     
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    If you choose to look online for Dirty Donalds renowned COKDE and UNDERAGE MODEL parties which he had on a regular basis while he temporarily owned both his underage model agency and the New York PLAZA HOTEL. He and his buddy Jeffrey Epstein had competing underage model agencies
     
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    So. The man's a pig. Everyone already knows that.
     

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