Latest Rasmussen Polling updates

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  1. Junkieturtle

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    Absolutely. Just mirroring the same comment that Trump supporters are always saying in response to Trump's polling.
     
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    You should also mirror them in the voting booth as well!
     
  3. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    I would sooner spend 20 years as a fluffer for hobo porno flicks than ever cast a vote for a man like Donald Trump.
     
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    1) You are counting chickens before they've hatched. What I said was that the good poll organisations have gotten better. The results remain to be seen. Btw, you keep thinking 2016, and ignoring 2018...

    2) My guess is Biden wins with over 290 EC votes.
     
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    Rasmussen took much of its 2016 poll before voters had heard about or seen the last minute Hillary emails or saying he would investigate her. As usual, Rasmussen had a bias against Democrats.

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    Right now, Trump is behind ... and he's running out of road.

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    As for the Fox News polls, they're consistently as inaccurate as your polls are. Whoever they outsource their polling to, they don't do a very good job of it.[/QUOTE]
     
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    You keep thinking 2018 and are ignoring 2020... You also keep thinking that polls are somehow meaningful...

    Biden will not get anywhere near "over 290"...

    Trump wins 326-212 ... you better not hide your face from here when Biden loses...
     
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  7. LangleyMan

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    Don't be absurd.

    "The COVID-19 virus itself is indeed smaller than the N95 filter size, but the virus always travels attached to larger particles that are consistently snared by the filter. And even if the particles were smaller than the N95 filter size, the erratic motion of particles that size and the electrostatic attraction generated by the mask means they would be consistently caught as well."

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-n-95-filters-not-too-large-stop-covid-19-particles/5343537002/

    There are a number of articles in Google Scholar about respirator effectiveness.

    You might study Brownian motion.
     
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    What is your proposal for getting a global pandemic "under control"?
     
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    Well not really since electors are all that really matter.
     
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    The Trafalgar Group has a really good track record of their polling predictions. They predicted that Obama would win his second term, that Trump would win and was real accurate in the 2018 elections. They're predicting a Trump win now. LINK

    Additionally the Democracy Institute, predicted Trumps win in 2016 and predicted Brexit. They are polling Trump and Biden at a relatively even keel with Trump slightly ahead by 1% (46% to 45%).

    Both of these polling places were considered outliers back in 2016. They're considered outliers now. Yet they have been the most accurate polls going by past history.

    Point is don't put too much faith in polls. It really is just a guessing game in the end.
     
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    True, but only for the President; both the house and senate are done on a popular vote.
     
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    Well even then you have those states that are moving to that crazy assed ranked choice system so Winner Take All is being replaced by #2 gets a do-over.
     
  13. LangleyMan

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    You do understand, don't you, an N95 respirator is not a cloth mask?
    Some progressives, yes.

    I think Trump is a racist, but not because he cut off travel from China. That said, I also think Al Sharpton is a racist.
    Trump is pond scum, but I've been in politics and worked with guys like Trump to get things done.
     
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    They have to close or modify the operation of some types of businesses--bars, clubs, gyms, restaurants, universities, tourism. There should be limits on the size of private gatherings. We should stay away from issuing stay-at-home orders. We should provide high-quality respirators--N95 and better--to the general public.
     
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    Rasmussen and one other poll in 2016 accurately predicted the Trump victory. It's because they use true demographics while the other liberal poles including FoxNews over poll Democrats by a very wide margin.
     
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    No, it didn't. They got lucky with the last minute emails and Comey statement that wasn't factored into their survey.
     
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    Rasmussen was indeed the most accurate on their daily poll directly prior to the election — prior to that their numbers fluctuated greatly by as much as +-8% which lowers their consistency and is to blame for their D+ ranking.

    Two other polling agencies also called it for trump; the LA Times and IBD/TIPP (source).
    The issue is how much these two polls are consistently diverging; LA Times has Biden up by 11.3% and IBD/TIPP has Biden up by 6%.
    Rasmussen seems to be a complete statistical outlier this time.

    As to your claim that other polls were “so inaccurate”, that isn’t supported by the actual evidence: (most polls have a 3%-5% MOE)
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    Two other major polls actually, IBD/TIPP and the LA times.
    Guess who both are currently predicting?

    And Rasmussen was actually incorrect but very close to the final result percentage wise.
     
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    Bwahaha

    LA Times was an outlier the entire election cycle (they had Trump up between +3% and +10% ), they were using some totally weird experimental polling methodology that totally failed and they don't use it any more, in fact I don't think they poll

    IBD/TIPP was close but Rasmussen was bull's eye.
     
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    The only thing people are pissed about is the closures and idiots who call for more
     
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    Trump's likely fatal mistake was pushing states to NOT open in early May and destroying the economy in the process - your ilk would be saying now if Trump didn't open the country... Trump is a totalitarian, fascist, nazi keeping people locked up, your ilk would also bleat...

    I'll take 56% people being better off today than four years ago over 100% people being still locked up, broke, miserable and drinking themselves to death any day.
     
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    I said accurate (as in a trump win) — I don’t see why that is funny.
    I am not aware of any polling agency that correctly predicted the largest popular vote loss with an electoral college win in history.

    Rasmussen has — in the past two weeks alone — have had 3 instances of 6 percentage point daily changes, when their moe is 2.5% that shows some flaws in methodology. That they refuse to allow people to see their demographic data without a subscription does so even more.

    I do find it odd that trumplublicans are referencing Rasmussen as a sure win when they have trump up 1% when their moe is 2.5%...
     
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    Accurate? Are you for real? LA Times had Trump winning the popular vote by 3% on the election day, that was 5% more than Trump's actual vote and Trump did not win the popular vote. Duh Like I said, the poll was complete garbage..

    PS most of the polls we are fed by the MSM now were also garbage, all those CBS/CNN/FOX/NBC/ABC polls were off by 2-4% in Hillary's favor. If I were you, I would not put too much stock in them.
     
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    Fire Fauci?

    Seriously. Biden will listen to the experts. Trump fires them.
     
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    Florida's mail votes cut off early I believe, less shenanigans (palm beach excluded)
     
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