Police fatally shoot a man in West Philly

Something needs to be done alright, like EDUCATION. I noticed none of you anti-coppers make ONE single mention of approaching a cop with a knife in hand

SAD

 

Aren't you supposed to shoot till man drops?

 

I'm sorry, did you just claim a knife isn't lethal?

 

That's because our police are better than yours.

 

No, you carry on shooting when your victim is on the ground just in case he is a zombie. I don't know about you but a taser or one or two bullets in the leg would drop me. Our police rarely bother with guns, a baton is usually adequate. Why are UK police so more capable than US police?

 

Why do we almost never see the news of cops killing a white person? Happens more often than not and yet, we' only raise alarm when cops kill a black person.

Why's that?

 

I said a lethal *attack*. So does the "use of corce continuum" principle you mentioned. Where is that guy seen attacking anyone?

 

You could always create those threads if you want to even it up?

 

You mean the guy threatening the police with a knife and refusing to drop the weapon? There is a 21' rule, inside that distance a knife can still kill you even while shooting someone unless a structural member is struck.

 

No, bobbies are not more capable than US police, they just don't have the guns to use them.

 

No one would care, white lives don't matter.

 

https://www.policemag.com/341203/revisiting-the-21-foot-rule

The 21-foot rule was developed by Lt. John Tueller, a firearms instructor with the Salt Lake City Police Department. Back in 1983, Tueller set up a drill where he placed a "suspect" armed with an edged weapon 20 or so feet away from an officer with a holstered sidearm. He then directed the armed suspect to run toward the officer in attack mode. The training objective was to determine whether the officer could draw and accurately fire upon the assailant before the suspect stabbed him.


The rule you mention is about the time you need to draw a holstered gun to react to a guy charging at you with a knife.

Here the cop's gun isn't in its holster. And the guy isn't charging at him with his knife, he's slowly walking towards him.

 

Well this is just dumb, of course it happens in other countries. Police were CALLED that a man was going crazy with a weapon by the way...I guess you would be happy if it ended more like this knife wielding guy in Paris before he was shot?

https://www.bbc.com/news/49921145

The problem is some want to get shot, this guy was one of them. What was his motivation chasing cops with a knife? Think about this, was he going to run up and hand them the knife? Your solution is use nondeadly force against a manic using deadly force. You may wish that on others but I guarantee you wouldn't want that if you were the officer.

 

Ok, so the .5 of a second between holstered and unholstered. That has nothing to do with a man with a lethal weapon attacking police officers. That guy got what every single person who attacks a cop OR civilian with a knife. We lost nothing here.

 

In what way is this "similar circumstances"!

 

I will say your police have a tendency to let knife wielding maniacs to stab others before they're shot, I'll give you that. As for you assertion that your police do not shot knife wielding lunatics is complete bullocks.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...shoot-knife-wielding-man-dead-london-69479788
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/02/world/europe/streatham-police-shooting-uk.html
https://bangordailynews.com/2019/11...-fatally-stabbed-two-people-on-london-bridge/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

You obviously do not read any of my other post. Anti cop I am not. Anti Democrat most definitely. I suppose my sarcastic nature did not show as I was try to point out that this constantly happens in areas ran and controlled by Democrats. Read my post again and take note that I said the mayors should be held accountable.

 

Beat me to it

 

Based on her mother whom I met several times in the waiting area who couldn't speak any english, I really doubt she had much sense because mom was a complete confused mess. I don't see what happened to her as really any different than what happened to the guy who got shot trying to lay his gun down when he answered the door for the police with it in his hand. Sometimes there is nobody in the wrong--it just happens to be a shitty situation destined for a shitty outcome.

 

In a perfect liberal world, black people will be free to commit crimes and attack people with weapons as they wish. If you do anything to stop them, you're a racist.

Sounds crazy but seems to be the logic of the left these days.

 

This is false.

In 2019 there were less than 1000 people shot by police in TOTAL out of 53,500,000 police interactions with the public. This includes armed, unarmed, threatening civilians, etc. That means that in 99.9982% of all police interactions, no one gets shot by police.

There were less than 100 unarmed people shot and killed by police. That means that in 99.999982% of all police interactions no unarmed people get killed by police.

And in 2019 there were approximately 26,000 ACCUSATIONS of excessive force. If we assume that ALL of those were legitimate (which we know they’re not) then that means in 99.95% of all police interactions there is not even an ACCUSATION of excessive force.

We do not have a police brutality problem in this country. That is a farce and a particularly evil one at that.

 

I ask again, In what way are these "similar circumstances"!

US police fatally shot 700 people in 2018
UK police fatally shot 3 people in 2018

 

For anyone who thinks killing someone with a knife is excessive! And anyone saying those with knives aren't killed outside of the U.S., here are just a few recent examples.

On March 1, 2014, a group of eight male and female attackers wielding knives attacked a railway station at Kunming, the provincial capital of Yunnan, in the southwest of China. 31 people were killed and a further 141 were wounded from the knife attack at the crowded railway station.

At 2.20 am on 26 July 2016, a man launched a knife attack at a center for the disabled people at Sagamihara, a town west of Tokyo, Japan. During the knife attack, 19 residents of the care center were killed, including nine men and ten women. An additional 26 people were wounded during the incident.

On 3 June 2017, three men launched an attack in central London shortly before 10 pm. A vehicle was driven into pedestrians on London Bridge before crashing near Barrowboy and Banker pub. The attackers subsequently attacked people (using knives) around the nearby Borough Market. 8 victims were killed and a further 48 people were injured. 5 members of the police force were also injured during the incidence.

 

Are you kidding me, UK POLICE KILLED KNIFE WIELDING MAN! You were saying that didn't happen I gave you 4 quick instances where the UK police have shot knife wielding men which blows the BS out of the water. Now you move the goal posts, shocker.

 

Last week, a Muslim fanatic hacked off the head of a French school teacher in front of the class. The UK is attempting to ban knives to combat their off the chain knife murder rate. The left has dueling narratives. Knifes aren't dangerous and knives need to be banned.

It doesn't matter. The narrative matters. According to the narrative, every felonious black man with a record of violent predation turns into a saint any time they are killed during the commission of a violent crime by a cop. We are supposed to believe this is evidence of white supremacy and not evidence of a complete disrespect of authority by malevolent actors. Not sure what the end point of this narrative is other than a dramatic rise violent crime (Milwaukee county has already set an all time record for murders and the year is not done yet). Is this an effort by the elite to get more black people killed? Who knows? The narrative is bat crap insane to me.