100 Trump Vehicles Escort Harris Bus in TX

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently, it's OK to break the law in an effort to push your political agenda, so long as you have the right agenda.
     
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    Your position boils down to: two wrongs make a right.

    That’s the path to anarchy.
     
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    I didn't say you could invalidate the law by exercising your rights, I just said I don't care if people block traffic, legally or not, to do so. You're welcome. You can keep your "I don't block traffic" standpoint all you want. It's a loser.

    Also, Texas does have rule about driving too slow where it creates a safety issue.

    https://codes.findlaw.com/tx/transportation-code/transp-sect-545-363.html

    So perhaps you guys did violate the law...maybe I should have a little more respect for this action then? And you a lot less? Do you think driving 35 miles per hour on an interstate is unsafe given the speed limit in that area I believe is 75 or so? If a car was traveling 35 in a 75 zone, do you think law enforcement would find that worthy of attention? Also, your buddies caused a traffic accident as a result of this, so again, you keep making accusations without fully accepting accountability. Is that something all of you on the right do? I don't think so, but you're starting to change my mind.

    Oh, right, again, you're correct, you can exercise your rights however you see fit. I just think, which is my right, your protests are meaningless. You aren't oppressed, your ancestors weren't enslaved, and you get pretty much everything you want in life that you earn. So again, you can protest all you want and that's totally you're right, but don't expect everyone else to care or agree.
     
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    Whatever it takes to convince yourself to keep voting D.

    Show me a post of you ever complaining about a bunch of Democrats blocking traffic.
     
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    Were they like this in the bus?

     
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    I did not say it was right, I'm just loling at the fake outrage and hypocrisy.
     
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    Who still watches Spongebob??? I think you may have just said more about yourself than my "leftist" mind. Any other thoughts? I mean, I can't do all the work here.

    ...And still nothing...sorry, but reality is on my side just like the reality that you aren't discussing/debating anything because you either have no point to make or are just here for the bridge tolls. It's OK, I won't make fun of Spongebob again, you can state your case.
     
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    You should have joined the campaign and been on the bus, then you would know instead of having to speculate...
     
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    Today, blocking traffic.
    Tomorrow, rioting, burning and looting.
    Oh wait... that was yesterday... and the day before... and the week before... and almost every day for the last 5 months,
    I do thank you for your continued admission that you have no issue with Democrats pushing their agenda with lawlessness.
    And thus, your admission that your opinion doesn't matter.
     
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    But you can’t bring yourself to say that what they did isn’t ok.
     
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    It's not OK to tailgate or block traffic, you happy now? Do you condone leftist blocking streets and cars, vandalizing them, beating the occupants?
     
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    You confuse this with a cogent response. Go on, drop your wisdom on us on why that statue is there...decades after the civil war when everyone in the south and the US knows who Robert E Lee was. Also, point me to the statues in the South of Hitler, Ito, Mussolini, George III, Saddam Hussein, and Osama Bin Laden? I mean, they were all loser too that the US defeated in wars, so where are their statues to teach us all about their history? Two things about memorial statues, losers don't get them, and they aren't meant to teach but to honor. Teaching history is for the historical record. If you want to dispute that, then go for it.

    Before you bring up the Washington monument or the Jefferson memorial, note that we aren't memorializing them because they were confederate rebels. We are memorializing their contributions to the founding of the country. The person isn't the focus of a memorial statue, but their intent is. A statue memorializing Lee's contributions to the state of Virginia, or West Point, or anything of that nature is fine. One showing him in his confederate garb on a horse in battle is only memorializing one thing.

    So, quip all you want, but the bottom line is context matters. And to get back to the topic at hand, the only purpose of what the Trumpers in Texas did was harassment, something your leader knows a lot about. It was a sad underperformance, also something he knows a lot about, but that was it's purpose. Next time, do better, I say.
     
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    Noting here changes the fact you stated your opinion, not a fact.
    Pointing out the distinction is, indeed, a cogent response.

    If you believe your statement of opinion is actually fact, onus is on you to prove it so.
     
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    Condone block traffic for the sake of political protest? I'm fine with it regardless of left or right wingers doing it. I don't even care if Nazi's block traffic for their protest. Are there consequences, legal and safety, for doing so? Yes, but to argue that the blocking of traffic invalidates the protest or means it should be minimalized or ignore is silly. In this case, it only bothers me that so called tough guy Trump supporters just slowed down a bus. I mean, that doesn't align with their desired image and undercuts their point, I say.
     
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    I condemn anyone who does those things.
     
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    And still nothing has changed here in that you offer no facts or stated opinion. Cogent means clear, logical, and convincing. I'm not clear what your point is, there's no logic to follow, and while it's impossible to convince me that confederate statues have a place in the public square, I could at least concede a point on the agree to disagree basis. But there's no point. Do you just keep hoping that I stop replying? If that's the case, say so and consider your wish granted.
     
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    You know your statement is false - I correctly, clearly, and concisely noted you confused your statement of opinion for a statement of fact.

    If you believe your statement of opinion is actually fact, onus is on you to prove it so.
    That you will refuse to do so only proves my point.
     
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    If you believe your statement of opinion is actually fact, onus is on you to prove it so.
    That you will refuse to do so only proves my point.[/QUOTE]

    No, I've made several statements that are all correct. You aren't even clear what we're talking about anymore. The only statement I have made that pertains to the topic at hand is this:

    The Texas drivers took a half measure that ironically is no different than what you accuse your political opponents of doing by restricting and blocking traffic

    The others are all tangents you and your buddy threw out and still couldn't dispute or back up your claims on.

    Feel free to post something of substance in response, otherwise you are just boring me.
     
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    The Texas case is a case of assaulting a candidate running for office.

    Other cases of this are those who tried to kidnap the governor of MI, those who have staked out the home of Seattle's mayor with around the clock assaultive behavior until the mayor had to live somewhere else, etc.

    These are personal attacks on an individual made in order to change the direction of government.

    And, THAT is the definition for terrorism.
     
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    Apparently, you aren't paying attention.
    You said:
    A statue to honor Robert E Lee outside a courthouse is to tell black people you aren't equal. It's to remind them of their place, which is second to white people.
    Prove this to be correct - that is, prove it is a fact, rather than your opinion.

    That you will refuse to do so only proves my point.
     
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    Blocking traffic is NOT OK, people may have important business and emergencies to attend to. It just pisses people off, not a great way to draw attention to your cause, just makes people angry at you.
     
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    You are literally fooling no one with that claim.

    Get your facts straight. That never happened. If you have proof they did this then show it. Until then your claim is worthless.
     
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    Some people - including him - believe it is OK to use lawlessness to push an agenda.
    Sometime, see, you have to break a few windows and scare a few Jews to move you on your way to political victory.
     
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    They were using their cars as weapons.

    Police shoot people for that.
     
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    My "side" hasn't murdered people. That would be your side. But point to a case where federal involvement was warranted and I objected. Please try.
     

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