Jim Rickards - “Trump Will Win Again”

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  1. hawgsalot

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    This is hilarious, who have we seen angry, that's right Libs they riot and they burn when things aren't seen in lefty la la land. You guys blame everything on Trump. You go low like dragging the country through a Russian Agent hoax and you think it's Trump going low. Heck your still whining about a couple facebook ads yet not even mentioning twitter and FB speech suppression. You talk about financial planner, let me just say if you haven't made a killing more in Trumps 3 1/2 years then you need to fire yours because it's been easy money
     
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    Police don't riot good grief this is unhinged. Police ordered people back, same the day before and most did so. Some decided they wanted to resist and they got moved back. A riot is what you see in lefty cities, burning, breaking, killing and looting.
     
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    Sorry, but you don’t know what you’re talking about and you’re trying to cover it up by making stuff up.

    I was there. Don’t pretend that you can make up BS about what happened and peddle it to me.

    Trump ordered Federal troops to attack a legally assembled, peaceful crowd.

    No warning was given. No indication that a public space was about to be closed (as you falsely claimed). And the riot was ordered started half an hour before curfew.

    It was the darkest day in the history of the Trump Administration since the Nazi rally in Charlottesville by your fuhrer’ s “very fine people”.

    As for “police don’t riot”. That’s precisely what Federal forces did on June 1.

    They rioted. Under the orders of the President or the Attorney General (neither of whom is man enough to own up to having given the order).

    And those troops that you describe as “police”.

    Well, they had no identifying marks on them. No labels on their uniforms and no name tags. Just as they would do in Seattle and Portland within days.

    BTW, I saw that with my own eyes too.
     
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    Oh boy... :couple_inlove:
     
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    Then again people see what they want to see too!
     
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    Still bothered by the old **ssy grab huh :) I guess no one from either sex had told you some dig it, some don't, and some try and profit from it..

    I'm guessing you are a lady and of the "Don't dig it" mindset..
     
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    Electoral College.
     
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    Really is that what you believe, it's amazing how Liberals like to Skew and misinterpret things for what they believe is Political Gain, by stating that Republicans are cheering and voting for the Riots and unrest. I don't believe in rewarding Liberal Criminal behavior, because an Election doesn't go their way and that's a main driver for me voting for President Donald Trump and it's not going to be Conservatives that are going to be rioting Tuesday or Wednesday if Joe Biden is elected. You obviously have a Mental issue, because when you make a statement such as "Why do you think riots, bigotry, attacks and intimidation are good things?????" in response to what I wrote, it's a good indication that the Conservative mindset is on the correct side of things in America, because we are the Party that supports Law and Order.
     
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    If Federal Troops would've attacked you wouldn't be here. Bottom line sounds like you should've listened and not started a fire in an historical church.
     
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    You can take to this to the bank. When a lefty whines about someone doing something, they are the ones actually doing it. They live in hypocrisy.
     
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    That is a long stretch with only 2 1-term presidents !!!!!

    If one accepts that both Ford and Johnson were part of the same Admins, it goes back to Hoover !!!!!!
     
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    Compare a few FB ads with billions of free coverage from MSM presstitutes.
     
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    You mean the ones who tried to burn down the church?

    More LW lies, Trump was talking about the question of historical monuments, that there are fine people on both sides, which is a pretty mainstream position. He specifically condemned the racists. The question of historical monuments should be decided by those who live in those locales, not mobs of violent thugs.
     
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    OK.

    The real question is why all of the sudden the GOP is OK with presidents who don't win the popular vote? You used to hate the electoral college and wanted to end it not that long ago. Now you're big fans of a system that elects the only national political office that has powers over 100% of Americans with the person who wins less than a majority of the votes. That's weird and you shouldn't brag about it, frankly.
     
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    Not always... I wanted to see a crowd at sleepy Joe rally two hours ago (Cleveland, I think?) and they' showed it to me... all of 6 people.

    True story :buggered:
     
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    Federal troops did attack. You saw it live on national television . Stop trying to excuse it or pretend it was something else.

    No decent American would approve of what Trump did that night.

    Indeed, when Herbert Hoover ordered the army against the Bonus Army in 1932, it ended any chance of re election.

    But then, political leaders and most voters acknowledged that their first loyalty was to the Constitution and the government, and the rule of law.

    This facist uses the term “rule of law” as a cudgel to persuade his racist base that the “rule of law” will not apply to them, but be used as a weapon against “thugs” (which is the current “N” word)..

    And the all white angry old Archie Bunker base buys it because they can dismiss injustice and the betrayal of America values because it is happening to somebody else.
     
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    Oh boy :hiding:
     
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    It does not matter who likes/hates what. It's in the Constitution.

    Read thy Constitution, and you thou shall understand! :couple_inlove:
     
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    BS, Trump wasn’t talking about monuments.

    We all watched him say it live on national television that afternoon. it took days for him to be shamed into condemning the violence.

    Since then, he has encouraged violence frequently.

    His belligerant fans hear the message, too.

    As for monuments being decided by locals, that’s now who those people in Charlottesville were.

    The word went out to every skinhead, klansman and white trash all over the nation. And they came from all over the nation.

    So out of one side of your mouth, you endorse Trump’s dog whistle to white supremacists by falsely suggesting that calling them very fine people is a “mainstream” position (a mainstream that was condemned worldwide the instant it was uttered).

    Out of the other, you claim that that mob that you’re apparantly defending had no business being there in the first place, and that decisions regarding statues should have been left up to the locals (as it always was).
     
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    You have zero evidence to prove a word you just claimed and your laughable claims of personal experience mean less than nothing.
     
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    Are you sure it's in the Constitution? Let's refresh you on it.

    That's from article II.

    The Twelfth Amendment then says this:

    OK, so you're telling me that, per the constitution, what happens today is state legislatures meet, deliberate from a list of electors taken from whatever process they deem proper, and then vote for the electors who then cast ballots for candidates for president. The on who gest the most becomes president, and the second most, vice president. Is that what you're saying happens?

    Oh wait, that's not at all what happens. What constitution have you been reading, man???

    Here's what you MEANT to say. The US constitution leaves elections for president up to the states to determine their presidential electors. At present, the states have largely overridden the framer's intent in favor of our current system, a winner takes all popular voting. That's right, you are siding with people who are interpreting the constitution as a living document for the sake of democracy, not it's original intent as outlined below with quotes from Madison and Hamilton, the two architects of the electoral college.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan

    So again, you're argument that it's "in the constitution" is woefully inadequate.

    You first have to intentionally deliberate, to borrow a phrase from Madison, what is your intent for how the president should be elected? Right now, only Nebraska and Maine do it as close to the originalists intent as possible. Are you an originalist or an activist? If you support our current method for electing the president, then it should trouble you that someone can win with fewer votes in the popular vote given all that is said above and how states operated. That means you should support a change to a system that is more democratic and effectively abolishes the electoral college.
     
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    I'm going to be fair in this one. I like Trump, but this guy basically looks like Dave Chapelle in his white-face character.
     
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    The electoral college was designed to choose from the political elite. So, not Trump. It would have dropped him like a hot turd.
     
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    Trump has no regard for the Constitution, Most Trumpsters don’t either.
     
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