U of Minnesota -- 12 step recovery program for whiteness

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  1. crank

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    So a white male can benefit from race or gender based pathways into college?
     
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  2. Pred

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    White males only benefit on their own merits. It’s the way everyone should be judged. But that’s not our world anymore. Too many get points for race and gender. It’s messed up. And Leftists entrenched in education and Human Resources have corrupted everything.
     
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    Can a healthy, non veteran white male benefit?

    Can a healthy, non veteran black male benefit?
     
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    Are you familiar with these words?

    qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered veterans.
     
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    Yep, and those words are EXACTLY why you refuse to answer. And you know it because you didn't refuse to answer my first question, but when I posed the question to expose the racism and discrimination, you all of a sudden refuse to answer.....gee I wonder why.

    One can benefit and the other can't....solely because of race and gender.
     
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    Those words are my answer.

    Minorities are not based on racism or skin color. But that's what you want to narrow it down to.
    It's just your game I won't play.
     
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    LOL

    That's 100% irrelevant. You're dead wrong and you know it.

    This is how foolish it is to argue based on partisan nonsense rather than facts and reality. You backed yourself into a corner, there's no way to argue your way out of it, and now you are just refusing to engage anybody in a discussion and claiming victory.
     
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    What is it based on - when not disability, veteran status, or accident of birth (race/gender)?
     
  9. dairyair

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    I put no partisan into my posts.
    I posted only words directly from https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/hiring/affirmativeact
    I guess you've not bothered to even click on the link. It's the Dept of Labor. And this is from their website I linked.

    For federal contractors and subcontractors, affirmative action must be taken by covered employers to recruit and advance qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered veterans. Affirmative actions include training programs, outreach efforts, and other positive steps. These procedures should be incorporated into the company's written personnel policies. Employers with written affirmative action programs must implement them, keep them on file and update them annually.

    So, I don't know what corner speak of. Other than perhaps your corner? Where you are claiming race and skin color is what AA is about.
     
  10. dairyair

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    Notice, you and Crank are the only posters thinking AA is about skin color.

    When the DoL says nothing at all about any race or skin color.
     
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    Your position is dishonest. Let’s assume that said “qualified majorities, women, persons with disabilities and covered veterans”

    Would you consider that discriminatory and/or racist?
     
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    Well since you've yet to tell is what it is about, how can you blame us?

    We've asked you repeatedly to tell us the criteria OTHER than race/gender in the non-veteran and non-disabled, but so far ... tumbleweeds.
     
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  13. dairyair

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    My position is the exact position of the Dept of Labor and their rules and definitions.

    I guess that makes your position dishonest.
     
  14. dairyair

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    If you are incapable of reading the words you see on your screen, I can't help you.
    If you are unable to click on the link to the Dept of Labor I've provided, I can't help you.
     
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    And there you go, folks. DA backed into corner by the realities of AA discrimination.

    The foot-stamping refusal to admit that it IS predicated on race and gender is fun to watch, though.
     
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    qualified minorities, women, persons with disabilities, and covered veterans.

    You might have a point, if you can show where race or skin color is what decisions are predicated on.

    You can't, so you have to make ad homs to deflect from you extremely weak position.
     
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    What is a QUALIFIED MINORITY?

    And .... "women" is gender. IOW, discriminatory.
     
  18. dairyair

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    Click on the link to the DoL.
    They wrote the rules, they define the words.
     
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    And? Just because the government does something doesn’t make it right or constitutional.
     
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    You mean the liberal scotus with Roberts voting lib? Well we have a conservative scotus now, let’s see how they rule on it.

    And my problem is that it discriminates based upon race and sex. Both constitutionally protected ideals
     
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    Bullshit it's right there in the link you posted and what you've quoted...."Qualified Minorities". That includes race, get over yourself.

    Go look up the definition of minority if you want....race is part of it.
     
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    I am so sorry I'm white, my parents were so cruel to birth me white, and then have the nerve to assign me a gender.
    I am so sorry I live in a predominantly white neighborhood.
    I am sorry we have literally zero crime, we give the po po almost nothing to do around here, so sad
    I am sorry I busted my ass to pay for my own college and did not sponge off others
    I am sorry if my whiteness triggers you
    so
    so
    so
    sorry
     
  24. dairyair

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    Qualified minorities, is just that. I have no reason to 'get over myself'.
    Exactly, race is a PART of IT. Not all of it. There can be many whites that fall into a minority status. As you stated, go look up minority.
     
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    MORE HISTORY OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POLICIES FROM THE 1960S
    1961. President John F. Kennedy's Executive Order (E.O.) 10925 used affirmative action for the first time by instructing federal contractors to take "affirmative action to ensure that applicants are treated equally without regard to race, color, religion, sex, or national origin." Created the Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity.
    https://www.aaaed.org/aaaed/History_of_Affirmative_Action.asp

    Are you claiming it's always liberal for the last 60 yrs?

    I hope there is a day when AA can be disbanded. But I fear, that's still a few generations away.
    For some reason, discrimination is something that humans have a hard time getting rid of.
     

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