Who's gonna win?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    It's election day. All the BS is over. What's going on? Is it Biden with the big win?
     
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    538 gives Biden 9 out of 10 chances of winning.

    The wannabe Fascist-in-Chief needs to SWEEP the closely contested battlegrounds in order to "win" and with HIGH turnout that is UNLIKELY to happen.

    Given that there are at 6 of these states and one of them is PA the result is probably NOT going to be known early UNLESS Biden is the clear winner in AZ or NC IMO.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden will win the popular vote by more than Hillary did. Odds on an electoral college win are about 50/50.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Nope!

    YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief's EC odds are 10/90 in favor of Biden.

    Of the 6 CLOSE battlegrounds with the highest EC counts Biden only needs to win ONE of them whereas your wannabe Fascist-in-Chief MUST win ALL of them.
     
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    Most all of the swing states are within the margin of error. Everything depends on turnout, as always.

    The only probably "early" guarantee for Biden is if he pulls off a win in Florida. If he does that, then the race is pretty much over.

    If it comes down to Pennsylvania, we'll be waiting for a few weeks to know the outcome.
     
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    What time can states start releasing vote counts? Florida already started counting right.
     
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    Trump has the numbers. The Dems' gamble was to run up the score with mail-in voting and build an unsurmountable advantage by election day. They are ahead but not even remotely close to where they need/want to be.

    Trump has more than enough high propensity votes left to overcome the small deficit, in essentially all battleground states,
    moreover his campaign invested hundreds of millions in ground game and have for months been knocking on a million doors a week.

    The dems are faced with an unpleasant necessity of mobilizing the dwindling number of their remaining voters whom they've spent months scaring shitless with the dangers of in-person voting and
    somehow convincing them to vote in person. And the dems need to do this without having a ground game.

    PS even the Dems' polling advantage in battleground states has all but disappeared, not that it matters as it was bogus in the first place. PA went from Biden +7% to Biden +1.2% in less than a week, and dropping.
     
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    Ok.

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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As soon as the polls close, states can start releasing numbers.

    The Florida count should be complete fairly quickly. Counting is well underway there.

    Pennsylvania isn't even going to allow one vote to be counted until tomorrow. All those mail-in ballots will sit, sealed, until tomorrow.
     
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    Who's gonna win?

    I don't know but with any luck we should find out by the end of the month.
     
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    May I ask why that is?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Every state sets their own voting/election rules and procedures.
     
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    Well it’s only seven counties in PA but yes unfortunately about 150,000 mail in ballots
     
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    Got it. Cheers
     
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    If Biden needs Pennsylvania, then he is in trouble.
     
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    I am fairly certain (and I could be wrong) they will count today's in-person vote tonight, they will start counting mail-in ballots tomorrow.

    PS Trump will need 1 - 1.1 million advantage by the end of the day in PA to feel comfortable, maybe less. According to his campaign they have 2.6 million voters left in PA, Dems have about 1.3 million voters left.
     
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    Yes, just mail ballots.

    Fact checking (my own memory, which isn't always 100%)......

    538 says Pennsylvania can start counting mail ballots starting at 7am today....

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    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvanias-vote-count-could-change-after-election-night/

    CBS says that 7 Pennsylvania counties are refusing to open any mail ballots until tomorrow...

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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/7-penn...til-after-election-day-to-count-mail-ballots/



    Nate Silver (538) expects Pennsylvania to "look like" a Trump win, but will swing to Biden once the mail ballots are counted (chart in article linked above).

    In other words, I don't think we can count on (pun intended) Pennsylvania until their release their final numbers.
     
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    That is a sick PERVERSION of the Voting Rights of the Citizens of PA!

    NEFARIOUSLY refusing to count those mail in ballots in REPUBLICAN counties until AFTER the election in order to FRAUDULENTLY give the ILLUSION that their wannabe Fascist-in-Chief is "winning" should be a CRIMINAL violation and ALL of those election officials should be charged, convicted and serve hard time IMO.
     
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    Don't worry about it. Remember all the polling returns putting Biden consistently waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of Trump in every important state across the board for month after month while leftists after leftist stated an iron clad faith in the veracity of their claims? Trust in the polling; because what are the odds that they are actually done by politically corrupt companies blatantly working for the political interests of the DNC to convince conservatives not to even bother voting? Trust in the polling returns . . . Hillary Clinton did.
     
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    Did you read the 538 article? It is saying that the in-person vote will make it appear that Trump has a big win, but Silver expects most of the mail-in ballots to be Democrats....leading to a Biden win.

    So talk to me again about the NEFARIOUS REPUBLICAN FRAUDULENT CRIMINAL PERVERSION ILLUSIONS. LOL :roflol:

    You're a hoot. Thanks for the smiles.
     
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    OBVIOUSLY you have NOT been paying any attention at all to the "red mirage" scenario that YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief intends using to FRAUDULENTLY pretend to have "won" in PA.
     
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    I'm well aware of the red mirage theory, but thank you for telling me what I OBVIOUSLY do and don't pay attention to. That was fun. :p

    So, it would not be surprising if Trump makes some early braggadocios statements before all the results are in....and ends up being wrong. It doesn't really matter what Trump, or Biden, says before all the states declare their winner.

    The final is the final is the final "official" result, no matter what political posturing from either campaign gets tossed out there. Agreed?
     
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    Biden's campaign is saying that Trump is within 1 state of winning. It's not a red mirage, it's red alert :D

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    Obviously none of us know. With the fiddling around of how votes are sent in due to the COVID-19 scare we might not KNOW for upwards of two weeks or even more after tonight. Think about the 'Dangling Chads' scenario of 2000 . . . only with numbers of radical and hate-filled leftists trashing yet more Dem Party controlled cities in order to express their feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings over the situation. Personally I think that Trump is going to win when all is said and done, but I don't KNOW it.
     
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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that you have NOT being paying attention to the red mirage SCAM that YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief intends to ABUSE in order to SUBVERT our election process.

    By DEMANDING that no further votes be counted AFTER election day and having his RIGGED SCrOTUS uphold that demand the end result could be that the VOTING RIGHTS of MILLIONS of citizens in PA will be VIOLATED.

    But since he is YOUR wannabe Fascist-in-Chief YOU do NOT have any problem with his crapping all over the Constitutional Rights of those who do not belong to his CULT.
     

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