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  1. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    He was requiring oxygen. Generally you’re pretty sick in that instance.
     
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    Not actual quotes? Scroll to 1:42.

     
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    Sure.

    He was so ill he was fine 12 hours later.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It wasn't that quick and I explained that as well as explaining that they only give steriods when people are very sick and why. It is not possible to talk to people who ignore the facts.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes it was, and they give the POTUS the best possible treatment regardless of condition....because he's the POTUS.

    I know lefties were very sad he didn't go to the ICU.

    Instead he did 14 rallies in two days.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She is willing to take bets folks. Bet her if you want to. I do not bet strangers even a penny.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who required O2? If you mean Trump, for a few moments is all. Trump walked out of the hospital in something like 2 days. Most of you would declare he did not actually get sick. Something is wrong when Democrats agree Trump actually was sick and not lying about it.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump is so ill he has done many many rallies. Biden however is supposed to be well so he did how many Rallies ... remind us how many he did?
     
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    No, he didn't "require" oxygen.

    The lowest his levels dropped was to 93% briefly. That's 2% below normal.

    Supplemental oxygen is typically administered when blood oxygen is below 90% for a sustained period.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I told MY people .... So who did Trump tell? Say it loudly? The Trump people is who Trump told.

    Trump was trying to tell the group watching him talk, his own people were testing, testing testing ... not showing results, just testing.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I talked this over with my own doctor. I was told what you told the forum just above.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With a drop of 2 pts off normal, it would be normal to give a person a shot of O2 when one is the president.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Due to this dilemma, I asked my own doctor this question. My Doctor always tests my O2 level. Not sometimes, everytime.

    DOC, should I buy one of those O2 level checkers? The doctor said,save my money. It is not needed to rush out to buy an O2 meter.
     
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    Exactly.

    The POTUS was given the most aggressive treatment possible....because he's the POTUS.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is New York City and what the hell did you expect with a Democrat Mayor and a Democrat Governor?

    Did you in your wildest imagination think NY citizens had a flying chance to survive?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Precisely correct.
     
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    This simply isn’t true. One of the most successful treatment protocols, MATH+, uses methylprednisolone in mildly symptomatic hospitalized patients. If he was given supplemental oxygen it would be correct to have given him a “steroid” as well.

    https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_pub...cine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf
     
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    anyone would be given oxygen if his sats dropped below 93%.
     
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    This was before the horrendous nursing home blunder had not yet happened. At this point in time NYC was operated on what was effectively the same plan as directed by the Trump Administration's COVID Task Force - with certain enhancements as needed for their situation.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Face some salient FACTS
    Trump moved a very important hospital ship to NY City that ended up there to treat victims of CV19. First it was to provide relief for the local hospitals where they did have CV19 but when the ship was not being used, Trump converted it to CV19. Democrats still refused to use that ship.

    Trump created hospitals in NY state to treat CV19 victims
    Trump created programs there to mitigate the disease.

    Democrats shoved victims into nursing homes and there they died. And even you call it a blunder. I applaud you for that.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree with that Sally. In the case of Trump his figures dropped over a short time but went right back up.
     
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    You're responding along a Trump vs Democrats line but your OP was an tale about how COVID effectively isn't dangerous because someone you knew had it and got over it. I challenged that, not what the various politicians are doing.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Am I being advised to start lying about my granddaughter and her husband? I also posted a video by doctor who rationally explained CV to all watching his video. He added context to this topic.

    I do not judge CV19 based on my immediate family. I only reported them and how they are handling the problem. They went hunting.
     
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    He doesn't play it straight, which makes the relevant question which curve he's throwing.

    Not exactly an interesting question, is it.
     
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    Not really.
     
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