I don't recall Biden claiming massive fraud, which is the particularly nasty part of Trump's speech. There is a massive difference between expressing confidence that you will win and claiming that you have won but that victory is being stolen via a massive fraud. Surely you understand this.
From what I’ve seen Biden has predicted victory. He has not claimed that he can only lose if there is fraud.
Yes, they are so much more organized & coherent than MSNBC; Kornacki's random strands of #s have got nothing on CNN's, "Phil." BUT-- THERE IS A MAJOR PROBLEM with their COUNTING!! They are giving the current totals of called states as 220-Biden/213-Trump. But that equals 433, so, since there's a total if 538, there should be a total of 105 in their uncalled states. But these are the 7 uncalled,still: PA: 20 Electoral votes MI: 16 GA: 16 NC: 15 WI: 10 AZ: 11 NV: 6 = 94. SO 11 ELECTORAL VOTES ARE UNACCOUNTED FOR. All right, they just partially cleared up the problem by declaring HI for Biden, even though it wasn't on their wall of states they've been repeatedly analyzing for the last hour (so there must be 7 more that electoral votes that they're assuming will be going to one or the other candidates, but haven't yet called; nevertheless, they're not listing the state(s) on their wall of undecideds. The problem was that Pennsylvania was looking like a long-shot for Biden, so, in analyzing his path to 270, CNNs Phil had said that, provided he held on to AZ & NV, he could lose PA & WI, and the combination of Michigan & Georgia would get him there. But, before Hawaii materialized from off-screen, that combination would have only brought him to 269! NEW UPDATE!! Though they'd been counting Biden out in Wisconsin, the count from Milwaukee for a bundle of mail-in votes just came in w/ an advantage of more than 100k for Biden-- he just took the lead in Wisconsin!
Correct ... he asked for patience and he told that Dems are on a good way to win! But Trump directly announced voter fraud by stopping counting in his speech ... and this tells all about this gangster and his cheering fans! If he really does, the USA has stopped to be a democracy and is not better as North Korea or these other "commi democracies" from the past with USSR in head! But we all know that he is a big friend with Russia ... isn't it?
The RED mirage just disappeared from Wisconsin. Might take a little longer for that to happen in PA but that is why Biden is advocating for PATIENCE and waiting until ALL of the votes are COUNTED.
Wow, Biden now leads in Wisconsin They are stealing the election! They are stealing the election! Trump gonna be furious.
I was wondering if Biden was out of touch w/ the reality or just putting on a calm face. Even now, we're only talking about 10k votes. And all the outstanding votes come from Red counties. However, they're ALL mail-in ballots which, even in Red counties, are skewing Democratic. So I'm a little relieved but not relaxed. ACTUALLY, WISCONSIN MIGHT NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE! That is, I'll have to check elsewhere to see where those 7 mystery electoral votes are likely to go; because if they're going to be Trump's, Biden would either need to win PA, which he's WAY behind in, or-- besides holding AZ & NV, & winning WI (in which his lead has now shrunk to 8 1/2 k)-- he would STILL need to win 2 of the outstanding 3: MI, GA, & NC. It's nowhere near a given how this will turn out, yet. Biden's 25k lead in Nevada just got cut down to 11k.
Agreed that is NOT over yet. PA had GOP controlled counties that DELIBERATELY refused to count any mail in ballots because they wanted that red mirage. Now they MUST count those ballots. Biden is going to need at least one other state and it would be IRONIC if it was GA that gave him the WINNING edge.
I'm just glad that Trump has no direct control over the electoral process. All he can do is rant and rave and bluster and send in lawyers. The presiding judges will be prepared for this and know their stuff. Let's have faith in justice and the judicial system!
All the votes from today have now been counted in Nevada, so all that is left is pre-polls and mail ins. Those have been leaning heavily blue all night, so that trend would have to change for a Trump win.
Says the guy who voted for a party that has been claiming Russia stole the election for four years. Save us your faux outrage.
Are you forgetting that the 7 counties in PA that aren’t counting their votes yet were Trump wins last time right?
Watching the vote ticker is fun. Just now Biden vote number rose 140,000, Trump rose 9000 at the same moment. Don't know which state though
Pennsylvania 2016 Clinton; 2,926,411 Trump; 2,970,733 Total votes; 5,897,144 Pennsylvania 2020 Biden; 2,290,624 Trump; 2,965,636 Total votes; 5,256,620 at 64% reporting 2020 - 2016; a difference of 640,524 total votes Geeeeeze, at 64% reporting, looks like a whole lot more Pennsylvanians voted in this election.
You’ve been wrong on essentially all of yours blowout predictions. I’m gonna guess you’re wrong here too
Since when is the DISAPPEARANCE of the red mirage a "blowout" prediction? I am an ADULT and I have the PATIENCE to wait until AFTER they have FINISHED counting ALL of the votes. That might not happen until Friday but that does not matter. COUNTING the votes at this stage is the PRIORITY.
You were counting on a blowout with 300+ Biden EC votes. Remember? The polls said Trump didn’t have a chance in hell. Don’t walk it back now.
At 99% reporting, let’s see how many more Iowans voted in this election compared to 2016; 2016; Trump; 800,983 Clinton; 653,669 Total; 1,455,652 2020 Trump; 893,649 Biden; 755,428 Total; 1,649,077 Approx. 15% more Assuming 15% more Pennsylvanians voted in this election; 2016; 5,897,144 + 15% = 6,781,715 at 64% reporting; 5,256,620 Biden looks good
YOU must have me CONFUSED with someone else. I have consistently predicted that Biden will WIN but I do NOT recall making any specific EC vote count predictions. Feel free to provide the actual POSTS so as to SUBSTANTIATE your baseless allegation.
You said he would win COMFORTABLY. How are those polls you’ve been bludgeoning people over the head with for weeks looking now?
