2020 Election: Live Coverage

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    MOVING the GOALPOSTS again? :eek:

    Nothing turning up in the Search engine that supports your ALLEGATION.

    Why are you failing to provide any links to these posts?
     
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    On CNN, Chris Cuomo thinks the nearly 700k deficit in PA is just unrealistically large, even if Biden still says he's confident he'll win there. They see Biden's path as clinging to those small leads in NEVADA & WISCONSIN, & making up the ground he's behind in MICHIGAN (but GA would do just as well).

    Side note: THE POLLS WERE OFF BY QUITE A WAYS, AGAIN.

    If you're still up, both Michigan & Wisconsin are expected to give updates any minute now!
     
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    Nevada is a very close call
     
  4. nopartisanbull

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    And based on your 2 to 1 Biden/Trump absentee votes, this election is far from over.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    It is way too soon to lambast the polling IMO. We have to wait until AFTER all of the votes are counted. Remember that mailed in ballots postmarked on or before the date of the election can still be counted up to 3 days after the election.
     
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    wow, I mean WOW!
     
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    Vegas odds swinging back to Biden
     
  8. hawgsalot

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    This thing is razor thin and anything is still possible. No time to gloat but the polls were dead wrong. Every battle state showing trump down 5-7 points was not even close.
     
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    Thanks for the verbal Valium. Yes, that's what the end game is looking like: Biden holds on to barely win Nevada, eeks out an 11th hour, paper-thin win in Wisconsin, then needs to surmount a pretty large deficit to capture Michigan (or a smaller deficit, w/ less outstanding, in Georgia). Doable, but by no means a done deal.
    And, while I'm definitely more hopeful than I was a few hours ago, it ain't gonna be a pretty victory, assuming Joe gets it.
     
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    OK, I guess you're right, since the polling didn't ask how people planned to vote; but maybe they should have.
     
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    I was a nervous wreck about E-Day yesterday. And still am right now. I've gotten only a couple hours of sleep tonight. Will be hard to work today.

    Polls were definitely wrong in a lot of places. Although one place they were very close was GA - that was largely viewed as a toss up and the result ATM is pretty close with apparently more mail ballots left for this morning out of Atlanta. Who knows how close that ends up. I believe AZ was pretty in line as well. Other polls were way off like WI. But due to the amount of mail ballots left in WI, MI, and maybe PA, looks like Biden may be able to win. Feels like 2000 all over again, just in a bunch of states. One thing is very clear - after this election, a lot of states need to change their voting laws to allow for pre-processing of mail ballots BEFORE election day like NC, FL, and a host of other states that were able to get their counting done on E-Day.

    Other than that, only thing this election has truly answered is that we are an incredibly divided nation right now. Pray for stability over the next few weeks, and maybe months.
     
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    I knew the polls would be wrong. Was hoping for a more decisive answer by now but it is what it is.

    If Biden takes Nevada then he only need Wisconsin and Michigan to win.

    If Trump takes Nevada, he can lose Michigan and Wisconsin and still win if he holds on elsewhere.
     
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    While Exit Polls are lousy when it comes to predicting who wins, especially in close races, they do have merit when it comes to demographics.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/live-updates/2020-election-campaign-vote/?id=73960714#74015921

    What is not stated above is that in order for diversity to INCREASE there has to be a corresponding DECREASE among the non-diverse demographic. A gain of 5% for minorities means a de facto 5% loss for the majority.

    This is something I have been watching for some time now and it is good to see it corroborated. I expect that we will have a better idea after the data is analyzed in more depth.
    That is a 20 point SWING for Independents between 2016 and 2020. Just mentioning @perotista since this is something he too has been watching closely. I cannot say that I am surprised since this was predictable and only the size of the swing was in doubt.

    The massive INCREASE among Moderates was also predictable and that 18 point swing was considerably more than I was anticipating.

    The 1st time voters are thanks to the tireless efforts of the Progressives. They deserve our thanks for their dedication.

    That 17 point DROP among the Military was also predictable given the ATTITUDE towards them by the wannabe Fascist-in-Chief.

    LOSING the support of men by 10 points was probably linked to the moderates and military swings IMO. Need to dig into this a little deeper in order to learn more.

    The ISSUES are always interesting since they tell us about what MOTIVATED the electorate. They also EXPOSE a lot of the FALSEHOODS that we hear about during the campaigns. None of the above are surprising but interesting to note how much closer the Dem platform is to these priorities.
     
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    So, is a neoliberal democracy still a viable system?

    Certainly a free market system funded by private banksters, pits citizens - and the public and private sectors - against one-another, leading to hyper-partisanship and political dysfunction, and wide-spread disillusionment with governement.

    Meanwhile China - with its "socialism with Chinese characteristics" (open markets with private and public enterprise funded by the public national bank ie PBC) has just revealed its 14th 5 year plan to the world.......on the way to achieving per capita GDP first world parity by 2035. It will be amazing to behold.....
     
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    Still NO SIGN of any of those IMAGINARY posts you were erroneously alleging that I posted? :eek:

    WHY would that be?

    :roflol:
     
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    Biden now has a comportment advantage over Trump.....All Biden has to say is “Relax, and let’s wait until every vote is counted, whereas Trump will be fuming all day.
     
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    I guarantee that for the next few days, we will see Bidens numbers slowly tick up. I hope the election workers from all parties are doing their jobs and making sure this is fair.
     
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    Good grief exit polls really? I hate to tell you based on the electorate, this country is more or less 50% republican and 50% Dem period. These exit polls are as worthless as the polls going into this thing. You literally would have to go state by state and do a deep dive and assume they were correct, to make any educated guesses. The Republican's gained seats in the House, the Senate remained Republican and who knows how the Presidential race turns out thanks to stupid mail in voting and lazy state legislators not creating the laws to accurately give us a count until days after the election. It was a dumb idea then and is now unfolding before our eyes. At minimum they should've passed laws allowing states to have the mail in votes counted and secured before the election since they knew the mail vote was going to be very big this year. These states are about to see some unreal pressure from both sides and it's done nothing but bring into question the accuracy as both sides have already filed lawsuits.
     
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    As of when? 2am this morning? Lololol

    Long shot for Biden now that he's going to lose. It was a shoe in 24 hrs ago.
     
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    No you’re just not worth searching through your thousands of ridiculous posts when it won’t search for “300”.
     
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    Trump up 13,000 in Michigan. Biden closing with 90% reporting.
     
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    Michigan

    90% reporting

    Trump; 2,393,852
    Biden; 2,380,590
     
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    5 hours sleep and nursing a hangover.

    Disappointed that we have to wait but it was expected, just still frustrating.
     
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    They’re stealing the election!
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    You could have searched using a lot of OTHER terms but that FEEBLE excuse is all you can come up with. :eek:

    Sad!

    To put it BLUNTLY you have SQUAT to support your utterly FALLACIOUS allegations but cannot ADMIT that all you have is SQUAT.

    :roflol:
     

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