Biden's lead in AZ and NV go away, Dems don't claim fraud

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden's lead keeps on getting smaller in Nevada and Arizona.

    Trump's lead in Pennsylvania and Georgia is getting smaller.

    Trump, is yelling & screaming "fraud!!!!!" & "theft!!!!!".

    The Democrats? nobody is yelling "fraud" or "theft".

    Democrats aren't accusing the GOP of stealing the election.

    if Trump ends up winning NV and AZ, Democrats will accept it.

    if Trump loses PA and Georgia? he will go nuts.

    Democrats were supposed to win the Senate. It didnt happen.

    are we going nuts? nope.



    hmmmm.......
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dems were supposed to win the Senate...by a lot.

    it didnt happen.

    are we yelling "fraud!!!!!!"???

    nope.
     
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    All states, in future elections MUST be allowed to count both mail in and early voting ballots as they are received and verified so as to avoid these long delays in determining the winner we are experiencing now.
     
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    What you should be yelling for is the careers of those pollsters you fell for.
     
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    duplicate post
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    i didnt believe the pollsters.

    i saw Biden winning with 270.

    i may be right
     
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    Actually in Nevada I expect Biden to win. His lead went up from 7,500 to 12,000 and the remaining votes are all mail-in and from predominantly democratic areas. I think Nevada is solidly with Biden.

    I just saw a calculation in Georgia of the outstanding votes and how Trump's margin is shrinking, and what percentage Biden is steadily getting from these outstanding ballots which are absentee ballots the are heavily for Biden at about 80%. If Biden gets 75% of them, he is expected to win Georgia by about 6,000 votes. If he gets just 56% of those (and he's been doing a lot better than that), he wins Georgia. As of now I believe that Biden will win Georgia.

    I think it's very possible that he won't win Arizona.

    I think it's possible that he will Pennsylvania. 26,319 is the lead for Trump in Pennsylvania there. Keeps dropping. Still a lot of votes to count.

    But the thing is, even without Arizona and Pennsylvania, but with Nevada and Georgia, Biden gets to 275.

    Game over.

    Hail Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., the 46th President of the United States of America.
     
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    true, they helped get the Trump vote out, had they not said anything, less Trump voters would have got out to vote
     
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    I hope you know that the Dems haven't lost the Senate yet.

    The two Georgia races are going to a January 5th run-off. If the Dems win both they get to 50 senators + the vice-president Kamala Harris. 51 to 50.

    And see, Georgia is turning blue (I should say, purple); it seems like Biden will end up winning Georgia by about 6,000 votes.

    So, this run-off is not certain to become wins for the GOP.

    I also expect that whoever Dems and Dem-leaning independents who didn't vote in the presidential election, may very well want to vote in these run-offs to give control of the Senate to the Dems. A lot of money will be poured into these campaigns and they are toss-ups.

    So, no, the Dems haven't lost the Senate yet.

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    This said, I do not want them to acquire control of the Senate. I prefer, for checks and balances, the party in the WH not having the Senate.

    And by the way, as an independent, that's exactly how I voted: for Biden, but for my state's Republican senatorial candidate.

    No, it's not extraordinary at all that lots of people who are more moderate, more conservative, want to get rid of Trump but want to keep the Senate with the GOP especially to counter a possible president Harris who would be too leftist.

    There is nothing weird with a split ticket in this kind of environment that we've seen in these elections.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you forgot the two Independents, Angus King and Bernie Sanders, who almost always vote Democrat!!!
     
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    I haven't found one video or news account of conservative-inspired violence following the Biden vote fraud. To be sure, if anyone has reason to riot it is us, but we won't. We're better than liberals in Antifa or Burn Loot & Murder.
     
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    why do you have a reason to riot?
     
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    Like a great come-from-behind racehorse, Joe will soon blow past dirty don in PA.

    The fat lady is approaching the stage... :sing: :democrat: :trophy:
     
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    Trump voters did not need any incentive to get out and vote. Pollsters mean nothing after their epic 2016 failure. Nate Silver's a joke and so are almost everyone at Real Clear Politics for their averaging the awful with the nearly-accurate and still come up with an average that turns out wrong.

    Suggesting that pollsters are any more credible than a horoscope or a long-term weather forecast is laughable in today's world of cancel culture, which strongly encourages people to lie to pollsters.
     
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    Screamed fraud for 4 years now. Not sure what your point is
     
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    Me personally?

    Best laugh I've had all day.
     
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    When you FRAUD you don't yell FRAUD. Let me explain. Recently I bought a Super Nintendo Classic Mini off of ebay. When I got it, i realized it was a phony (i know because i own 3 of them). I told the seller it was a fake and he refunded it AND said to keep it. Why? because he doesn't want heat. Its also kind of like if a drug dealer rips you off, are you gonna complain to the cops about it?
     
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    if fraud was committed, GOP would not have soo many successes.
     
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    No, you're wrong about that. They are already counted in the current total. When media says they have 48, it's 46 + the two independents. The Dems still need two more, and the only remaining/uncalled races they can fight to win are the two Georgia run-offs.
     
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    Your example is touching but we're talking about the United States Presidential Election, not a Nintendo purchase on Ebay. Come on, man!
    There are many failsafe procedures in an American election.
    THERE. IS. NO. FRAUD.
    It's all a desperate fabrication by an entitled incumbent who is losing the election.
     
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    I disagree...why did they push so hard for mail in voting when its almost just as easy to drop off your ballot in a ballot box? They planned this the same week covid-19 hit. If it wasn't fraud, it would have been called already. Don't fret, I still think Biden will take it, but its too late for democrats in the long run, they have been EXPOSED and even black people are jumping the ship like crazy.
     
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    silly, baseless conspiracy theory
     
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    There isn't a single proven case of fraud. It's all innuendo, baseless allegations, unproven claims.

    Nobody has been exposed. If anybody was exposed, is the horrible loser known as Donald J. Trump who is spewing baseless claims that damage our democracy and our stance in the world. I'm in touch with people abroad; they are shocked.

    Not only Democratic states, but most states including numerous red states, extended some provisions to facilitate mail-in voting BECAUSE THERE IS A FREAKING PANDEMIC GOING ON!!!

    My wife and I voted by mail, and we didn't even want to show up at the County Board of Elections office to drop the ballots in, because we'd have to interact with people, and we are exposed enough in our job, so in the community we stay home and we don't interact with anyone, whenever possible. So I requested mail-in ballots, we filled them, she served as my witness, I served as hers (which is allowed) and I simply drove to the nearest mail box and dropped our votes there. Later we confirmed through the website that our votes were received, and considered valid.

    We did it for a contactless vote. Not to fraud the system. We are legitimate American citizens who are eligible to vote, and we exercised our right to vote, according to the laws of our state.

    Just like the vote, when I order pizza delivered to our home, I add instructions for the delivery man to leave the pizza on a bench outside, where I put the money and his tip too. Once he leaves I wait a little (for any kind of aerosol to dissipate) and I go get my pizza.

    That's it. Contactless pizza delivery. Simple. Same reason why I voted by mail. In other elections we always go in person. This time we did the mail-in voting EXCLUSIVELY because of the pandemic. No conspiracy theory needed.
     
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    Don't forget, kids! Bathe in strong disinfectant before and after dressing in attractive 55-gallon trash bags and diving face-mask, to fetch your morning crullers!
     
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    Huh?

    What does that have to do with the Actual OP Topic of NV and AZ?

    Anyway, I will trust any results that are certified by the states in question.
     

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