Without speculating on his guilt or innocence, should Crooked Donald.......

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    be prosecuted for tax evasion and or for the illegal payoffs to Daniels and McDougal made in order to defraud the voting public?

    M. Cohen was charged and plead guilty for participating in those illegal payments.

    The available, incomplete evidence in the public sphere appears to incriminate Individual 1 for tax fraud schemes going back decades.

    Assuming the evidence supports prosecution, should the criminal known as the Divider-in-Chief be prosecuted?
     
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    Your headline says he's crooked, removing any speculation on your blatant bias.
     
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  3. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a fitting nickname. We know he's crooked, we don't know if he's guilty of the matters I referred to.

    As for my bias, I never tried to hide it. He isn't only the worst prez in history he is a despicable human being.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    So much for impartiality, eh, Lee? That's what we like about the moderators here.
     
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  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The thread is about guilt or innocence, not impartiality.
     
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    quiller Well-Known Member

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    Right. Speaking of guilt and partiality....
     
  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Naturally, it will be up to a jury should the authorities choose to prosecute the big, fat, lying, idiot known as Individual 1. But they clearly think they have a case.

    "During the campaign, Cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories – each from women who claimed to have had an affair with Individual-1 – so as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election. With respect to both payments, Cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. Cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls, about the fact, nature, and timing of the payments. In particular, and as Cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1. As a result of Cohen’s actions, neither woman spoke to the press prior to the election.

    Trump is no mere accomplice, but is alleged to have directed the criminal activity."

    https://www.justsecurity.org/61785/muellers-roadmap-major-takeaways-cohen-manafort-filings/
     
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    Slimy Rudy has argued the hush money payments had nothing to do with the campaign for the presidency. An assertion undercut by AMI's admission they did.

    "Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, has argued that the payment to Daniels was not, in fact, related to the campaign. Prosecutors, however, didn’t buy it, and Cohen has since acknowledged his guilt.

    It’s clear that the McDougal deal was meant to benefit Trump’s campaign as well. On Wednesday, federal prosecutors announced that as part of a non-prosecution agreement, American Media, Inc. now acknowledges it paid McDougal “in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election.”

    https://www.vox.com/2018/12/12/18138213/trump-illegal-hush-payments-women-explained
     
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    Lets give the guilty SOB a fair trial before we hang him. Democratic democracy and action.
     
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    Yes because no one should be above the law

    And besides you might need a crowbar to prize him out of the bunker - threat of arrest will do nicely
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep in mind that their are some serious accusations of Biden and his term will also end some day. History says that most likely there will be a republican house and senate.
     
  12. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's quite possible the threat of indictment is the motivating factor in his desperate scramble to litigate the election result. Something that makes perfect sense if he knows he is guilty of decades long tax fraud schemes.
     
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    His taxes were legal or the IRS would have come after him. He is a business man and his taxes are those of a businessman. The only taxes that are "perfect" are those grooming from day one to be a politician.

    What the left wants to do is destroy him now so that any other outsider willing to get things done for the American people is scared off. That's pretty despicable really...
     
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    Your subject line is funny. Using the adjective "crooked" automatically implies guilt.

    Nevertheless, I think he should be prosecuted if they have a case against him. Nobody should be able to break the law with free abandon.
     
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    This argues that Trump SHOULD be prosecuted

     
  16. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Providing the evidence supports an indictment, or two, are there any Trumpette's out there who think Don should get a pass on the grounds of national unity?
     
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    I don't think he will get prosecuted because they've waited too long. The question to would-be prosecutors will be: " if you knew this all along why didn't you act?"
     
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    Think of it as instant Karma for the "Lock her up!" chants that Trump led even though Hillary never had a day in court ...
     
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    I asked a similar question on another thread and the answer was basically that they could not arrest a sitting POTUS and his desire to win the election was to allow the Statute of Limitations to expire if they had to wait four more years. That seems to fit his blustering and frivolous lawsuits to demand recounts ONLY in the states where Biden won.
     
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    Because the OLC opinion by which the DoJ abides prohibits the indictment of a sitting prez.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your specialty in posting inanities is once again noted.
     
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    Personally, I think he should be prosecuted and persecuted for the rest of his miserable life if only as a warning to others.

    In reality, Dirty Donnie has some control over what will happen. If he continues to be politically active, he will be prosecuted as a means to neutralize him. If he goes quietly and resumes his tv show or goes on the lecture circuit he will probably have nothing more to deal with that his creditors.
     
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    Not that it matters, but when did any Democrat get a chance to vote for Kamala Harris in the Democrat primary? Speaking of not having a day in court! She drops out, and suddenly Grandpa Grope announces she has just GOTS to be his VP because the party told him she would be. He wanted female and black and socialist and he got it. Rather, then we got it.

    Is it instant karma for Biden that the Dems dredged up the 25th Amendment before the 2020 election was even held? Are we seriously expected to believe the 25th would apply if Trump was not reelected --- where defeat meant the Dems didn't need to use it? But dredging it up gave the Dems the cover they needed to have it ready to oust Groper and sweep in Comrade Kamalalalala.

    (*high-pitched Karen voice set to Nag-11*)

    Sure, Joe. You shoulda won those last two times, right, Joe. So we're gonna let you top the ticket one last pathetic time, and then you went and front-loaded it with all the crap you can think of to turn off intelligent voters. Why'dja do that to us, Joe? We haveta work six times as hard filling out ballots strictly with your name only on them, Joe. We got hand cramps doin' that, Joe. And where we gonna find words to thank the moron who didn't think we'd notice that one? Do we mail their clothes and air-express THEM to the Azores, or what?

    Shape up now! Get those poll observers over there where they won't bother us, or a tame WXYZ-TV crew won't officially notice what's right there before their eyes. Right, Joe. It's in the bag, so shut up, OK, Joe?

    Jill, can you put this babbling old git to bed? He's embarrassing us with his win.....
     
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    I hope you're right. It's an unprecedented situation, so we have no idea if they've been sitting on anything (in terms of criminal charges).
     
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    The courts will decide who's inane and who's being specious.
     

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