Why Trump lost

Lol, no. No, sweetie. No one is dumb enough to think that Trump developed any vaccine. No, it has nothing to do with socialism.

 

Actually Trump gets credit for the vaccine. Biden will get blame for delaying the vaccine.

 

There is no intellectually honest way to credit Trump for the vaccine, and you have no evidence of Biden somehow "delaying" a vaccine. Sorry.

 

I don't think I want to swim in your pool.

 

Chaos.... like Minneapolis, Portland and the like?
Like radical liberals and dems openly attacking people who don't agree with them?
Like radicals tearing down monuments all over the nation, and cops ordered to stand down?
There's so many examples of wacko conduct on the part of the libs and dems- and the only way you can remotely blame it on Trump is to say those people aren't mentally old enough to be responsible for themselves, and so not liking Trump caused them to become deranged maniacs. Trumps fault they didn't like his style.... No. They are like that because they are trash, and the dems let them act out unrestrained by police... even supported by dem mayors with big yellow stripes down their backs.

And those same players just elected the party that has backed the chaos. Do dems think they are going to be able to tell them to go home now, and turn it off? No, that's not how it's going to work.
The peaceful protestors in Portland have already vandalized the dem headquarters there, painted signs like "F--- BIDEN", "NO Presidents" broke windows, etc. They're just getting started, and Biden isn't even in office yet.

It's going to be nasty, and they have no one but themselves to blame.

 

Should be- but I think that will depend on which news channel is talking. Some of them can invert anything with a straight face.

 

Neither Biden or Trump "Developed" ****... Science and Companies did, particularly Pfizer as in the news today who according to THEM, did not receive any actual money for the Research and Development but only sold the eventual end result doses...so.... ?

 

Trump made it possible when last June he ordered 100 million doses of the virus from Pfizer et al.

 

Swimming pools are carefully cleared of harmful agents in several ways.

 

1. There are no fraudulent votes in any expressive numbers. That is a complete fabrication. If a concerted effort had existed (which is quite impossible with our state-organized presidential elections), we'd have seen the Dems doing better in Senatorial and House races. This fact alone is a powerful one to disprove these conspiracy theories. What happens is that any election with 150 million votes has some anomalies, most of them unintentional, maybe a few of them malicious, but nothing with the order of magnitude required to actually change the results.

2. When it's all counted (such as the millions still uncounted in California), the likely final result will be more like 52.5-47.5 in Biden's favor, which will be the second biggest margin in recent times, only behind one of Obama's victories which was by 7%. The final margin will be something like 4% to 5%. Mark my words.

3. This situation is completely different. The Gore mess was in one state, Florida, by 500 some votes. Yes, it would have been premature to call it for him in those circumstances, but actually it was the other way around. Gore was the one who conceded, at first, as Florida was called for Bush, at first. In any case, this time, it's not just one state, but rather, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Nevada. To prevail Trump would have to reverse all five and the differences are between 10,000 and 45,000 votes in favor of Biden in each of these states (and counting). Some of these states have Republican governors, Republican secretaries of state, and Republican attorney generals. Do you actually believe that these people defrauded the elections in favor of Biden? Come on, man!

Sorry, your wishful thinking is touching, but it isn't going to happen. Recounts, last time they did one in Wisconsin, changed the final count by... 100 votes. All this brouhaha about the Pennsylvania late arriving ballots will affect a handful of thousands of votes while Biden's advantage is in the 45,000s now (and growing). Say, the Trump campaign succeeds in the Supreme Court, on this. Given that the Pennsylvania Board of Elections wisely segregated those ballots, then even if the SCOTUS decides the matter in favor of the Trump Campaign, the Board will simply toss out those votes and Pennsylvania will still certify the election for Biden anyway, and Biden will have won Pennsylvania with 40,000 votes instead of 45,000 votes, Big deal.

Trump is putting up a fight more to cater to his base, delegitimize the Biden administration, and prepare his future influence and platform and possible 2024 comeback (Trump TV is coming), rather than to actually reverse the election, which is a long long long shot at this point, a MUCH longer shot that Bush v. Gore. Even people like Melania and Jared Kushner have been telling him to concede.

At this point, if the SCOTUS falsely reversed this election in favor of Trump, it would trigger a civil war, and I wouldn't even exclude a military coup. The generals are sick and tired of Trump too, and everybody except rabid Trump followers understands that the American people have spoken and have picked Biden as the next president. Reversing that will trigger a blood bath. I don't think Congress will put up with it, either. Even sycophants like Lindsay Graham, while from one corner of the mouth he is spewing insanities about voter fraud and Trump winning, from the other corner of the mouth he is already saying that he looks forward to working with Biden's cabinet.

You may call the margin small, but do realize that both in national numbers, and in state numbers, Biden beat Trump by higher numbers than Trump beat Hillary. If you felt like the 2016 election was a mandate for Trump, then with better reason, this one is a mandate for Biden, like it or not.

 

So just double down on being wrong.. Making a deal in order for faster distribution does not equal helping in any way to develop it and help fund the Millions? Billions? in R&D costs Pfizer took on.

 

Trump made what possible, regarding Pfizer? LOL.

The Pfizer order is a contract of intention to buy. It's akin to a restaurant reservation. Money is only changing hands if the Pfizer product gets approved and delivered, just like you only pay for the meal you reserved in a restaurant, after you eat there, and it's a good analogy because if you need a reservation to eat in a restaurant, it means that if you hadn't reserved it, someone would have taken that table.

The money in the Pfizer case has nothing to do with Research and Development. Pfizer is not part of the Warp Speed R&D initiative, and doesn't need it. Pfizer is a HUGE big pharma company with more resources than the entire Warp Speed initiative, which is why they opted out.

The order is a market reserve so that we don't get passed over and we miss out, for when they are prepared to sell. If we hadn't placed the intention to buy contract, they would have sold to many other eager countries. Again, Pfizer has nothing to do with Warp Speed initiative, like their executives have just said, correcting the record when Mike Pence tried to get credit for it.

This said, I do praise the Warp Speed initiative, but don't get things mixed up. While it helped Moderna and Oxford/AstraZeneca and others, Pfizer has nothing to do with it. The smaller companies used Warp Speed for cost-sharing and development grants. Pfizer merely promised to sell to us; if we hadn't reached out to them as buyers, they would simply sell to someone else.

 

Pray tell, what vaccine has TRUMP developed? LOL
And do you really think that Biden is a socialist? LOL #2

 

Note that his fundraising effort includes the words, "will be used to pay any potential legal fees and other unpaid campaign bills."

He's in it, literally, for the money.

 

Thankfully, I would NEVER invite YOU to swim in my pool. No chance. Your loss, because my pool in my backyard is pretty nice, and our pool parties are famous in the neighborhood.

 

Oh yes, I forgot that part. That, too.

 

While some of what you're saying is factual, as you highlight yourself, that's not Biden's doing. He actually strongly spoke against these rioters and looters.

The ultra-progressive, far-left wing of the Dem party is not Biden's crowd. Biden is a moderate. He will govern as a moderate. You'll see. He's been depicted as a socialist by the Trump campaign for electoral purposes and you seem to have believed in this characterization, probably helped by the fact that during the campaign he paid some lip service to the left as every politician does when they want to keep voters in the flock (campaigns often have the candidate paying lip service to causes he doesn't really plan to champion - has Trump forced Mexico to pay for that wall?), but he has 47 years of being a moderate politician and it's not in his last four years of political life that he will change, regardless of what he said in campaign.

Have you noticed that Bernie Sanders and AOC are already sort of turning against him?

 

Did you think I wouldn't read your link? There was no, NO mention of the insurance mandate. As predicted, you are wrong once again on this issue.

Wrong
wrong
wrong.

Stop spreading this fake news.

 

Biden vows to bring back Obamacare’s individual mandate penalty for not having insurance

 

LOL 1) It isn't his job.
LOL 2 ) Yes!

 

A win, win.

 

First you go (about biden vowing to reinstate the tax penalty) "fake news" then you go "he misspoke" when that was proven false, then you change the subject to Trump and lastly, abandon thread.

 

Wonderful!!! And so actual!

 

He could have still won despite the virus. It was his attitude about the virus that did him in. He blew a perfect opportunity to act presidential for the first time in his term and if he'd done so instead of obsessing about the stock market and worrying he might look silly or weak in a mask, he would have won, hands down.

 

Maybe, impossible to know for sure. I think it was more about voter turnout.