USPS Whistle Blower "I Didn't Recant" - Coerced to Water Down My Story.

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  1. TurnerAshby

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    It was a joke on how ridiculous they've been
     
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    How are those things fallacies? Do explain how those are not legitimate concerns to be looked into.
     
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    Sure.

    "Looked into" and dismissed out of hand 5 seconds later.

    Yup. Let's look into it.
     
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    clennan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense.

    The WAPO is reporting what they've been told by the USPS IG and House Oversight Committee, which tweeted the same. If Hopkins has a defamation beef he should take it to them, not WAPO. However, as they reportedly have a signed recantation, that's a touch awkward.

    No doubt Project Veritas has assured him they'll take care of his child support payments etc. if he battles on, regardless, and claims coercion. However, coercion's a poor excuse for someone who claims to be acting through the courage of their convictions, yet lacks it entirely when it matters most.
     
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  5. Hollyhood

    Hollyhood Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't find the IG very credible given the video. The signed recantation was made by Weisenbach. Given the recording, nothing there indicates that Hopkins recanted, and it runs counter to the House Oversight Committee's statement on Twitter.
     
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    They're fallacies because they've been dismissed in court every time they've been presented. It's disinformation, which is why McEnany was cut off. Pretty simple to understand. Trump told us the election was rigged, and now everyone is scrambling to "prove" this true. That's all it it. It can be easily ignored. Where's Hunter?
     
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    The signature makes it legal; no "indication" necessary. And it's not a worldwide conspiracy against Trump.
     
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  8. Doofenshmirtz

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    I once told the truth about lying about lying about telling the truth.
     
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    Get a load of this:

    Post Office Whistleblower to Washington Post: I Did Not Recant My Statement About Ballot Tampering
    Ian Schwartz
    On Date November 10, 2020
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...cant_my_statement_about_ballot_tampering.html

    Click on the link RCP provided below its headline. This is what you'll see:

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    Twitter suspended his account.

    https://twitter.com/Larry64364562/status/1326323052884480000

    "See what's happening"

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    Yet your accepting as fact, a video from Project Veritas, who has been legally adjudicated for lying, and making faked videos?

    Your accepting him as "truthful" because you want to. Most people, like courts, require some actual evidence. This "he said-she said- Project Veritas" crap stinks of partisan BS yet again
     
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    What was used as a "coercion"? Being reminded that lying under oath is illegal?
     
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    The recantation was nothing to do with Weisenbach. Hopkins made and signed the recantation to the IG investigators. Nothing in my post runs counter to the House tweets. Their tweets explicitly state that he recanted, and did so to the IG.

    Oversight Committee
    @OversightDems


    BREAKING NEWS: Erie, Pa. #USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering
    with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG.

    #USPS IG investigators informed Committee staff today that they interviewed Hopkins on Friday, but that Hopkins
    RECANTED HIS ALLEGATIONS yesterday and did not explain why he signed a false affidavit.​
     
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  13. Hollyhood

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    BS. All you have done is launch attacks against his credibility, and you did it immediately after you heard about his affidavit. I, on the other, wrote a post accepting his recantation when I heard the WAPO story, and then it turned to be fake news. I had an open mind, and you never had one. Then you attack my credibility? . When a court case is going poorly, we call constant attacks on credibility a desperate hail Mary. A diversion from the facts.

    I'm accepting that small part of the video as truthful cause there's no reason to doubt it. Hopkins is wearing the wire. I believe Hopkins cause he was consistent. I don't necessarily believe O'Keefe and I definitely don't believe the guy in the video attempting to coerce Hopkins to change his story. You seem to believe that guy, even though he's engaged in a criminal activity.

    I can only find cases dismissing allegations of defamation. You guys keep suing him, and keep losing.
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...es-frivolous-lawsuit-against-project-veritas/

    We'll get a full version shortly.
     
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    Weisenbach signed the recantation. You're not fooling anyone. I have all the links on a word document. Here you go.
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...d-nov-3-came-erie-postal-facility/6246606002/

    Based on the recording, the statement made by the USPS IG investigator is false. If not, show it to me in writing. I'm not taking the word of an IG that was attempting to coerce the whistle blower to change his story. The oversight committee is lying.
     
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    Yeah Veritas lost all credibility when they tried to send in a plant to the ... NYT? The Washington Post? (Can't remember which) with a fake story who then was followed back to Veritas office.
     
  16. Hollyhood

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    Yeah. NYTimes lost all credibility when they reported that 1000 WMDs were found in Iraq. We can play this game all day. I take things on a case-by-case basis. Hopkins is credible.
     
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    I don't know if the election was rigged or not. It may be, it might just be human error or honest to god computer glitches, but they do warrant an actual look at to determine what is really happening. If it's disinformation as you claim then the only thing this will prove is that you're correct.
     
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    Fair. We have made peace. For now.
     
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    There are no "ifs" here. If you believe Trump, send a donation. As long as Trump pays for it, he can further embarrass himself to his heart's content. Will you accept the results of the recounts and court challenges?
     
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    Read your own article.

    It doesn't say that Weisenbach signed a recantation. It says that Hopkins signed a recantation.
     
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    I just listened to the raw video. Basically they asked him to tell them exactly what he heard. He heard words like "fourth ballots" and "one was marked the 3rd" and everything else was assumptions that he made. No one said "messed up" or anything about backdating.

    This one is not going anywhere.
     
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    Full audio from Veritas

     
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    I'm sure you could. And I would agree. So now we need more then just 'he said, she said' because of it. Proof is necessary.
     
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    I knew this would happen, the people doing the investigating are partisan hacks, they will try to scare anyone that comes forward with proof of fraud, they want to protect Biden. None of these people should talk to anyone from the DOJ or especially the corrupt FBI without a lawyer and a video camera.
     
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    I don't care about Trump. What I want is to be able to say we did everything we could to remove any doubt or otherwise we set a standard that we can't trust the election system. When people feel like they don't have a voice and have nothing to lose, they will lash out in ways that could be violent and that's something we want to avoid.
     

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