FEC Chairman is saying there's voter fraud taking place, cites video evidence, says law is not being followed. So the left, who bombarded us with 'we must have election integrity' for four years will favor doing anything and everything they can to not only make sure this election is fair and honest, but will promote future elections using every possible means to make them fair and honest, right up to including in person voting for able bodied people and voter ID, right?
Fraud occurred, for the left to pretend this didnt happen and entertain fake news headlines like that of the NYT claiming there was "no fraud" found are purposefully allowing propaganda to take hold of them. The reality is, it did happen. The question is, did it effect the election results? Bottom line, I think not. But, regardless we need to ensure this is true and investigate every claim thoroughly if we are to ever have faith in this election system.
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TREY TRAINOR SAYS Yeah, take that one to SCOTUS too. Trainor should sue his parents over his name, not babble about non-existent voter fraud.
So what? PROVE IT (in a Court of Law) and then get back to me. Linking to a Far RW Twitter Account doesn't cut it. Thx in advance.
Claiming Trump is a traitor to the country for wanting a fair election process, and thorough investigations of the objective election fraud that did occur to ensure he did in fact lose, is dumb.
I don’t suppose you understand that the Chairman of the FEC does not oversee or regulate elections. His job is to insure that campaign finance laws are followed (which is what he did for a living for GOP politicians). Trainor has been a loyal Trump flunkie. He opined that churches could participate in political activism (which is illegal). He also baselessly attacked mail in and absentee voting, even though he has no jurisdiction. All of this is pablum for the reactionary right wing crowd. Giving statements to right wing trash blogs is too.
I'm not sure what the remedy can be. If you have a postmaster in Erie, PA who backdated the postmark to Nov 3rd on ballots actually received on the 4th and 5th, then a recount doesn't do anything. Or you have ballot harvesters who filled out multiple ballots which passed muster the first time, how would they be identified a second round? Bad ballots just get counted a second time. About the only thing I see happening is some people get indicted and go to jail for voter fraud and/or mail fraud. I think the only "satisfaction" Republicans will have is that the Biden presidency has the permanent stain of illegitimacy and fraud.
Trump could care less about a fair election process. He has made it very clear that if it were up to him, the pesky business of answering to the public would be done away with altogether. Virtue signaling doesn’t work when you’re trying to prop up a scum bag as virtuous. This has always been a problem for Trump.’ There just weren’t enough deplorables.
Anyone can go to the official Pennsylvania government site and review the data. https://data.pa.gov/Government-Effi...ection-Mail-Ballot-Requests-Departm/mcba-yywm If you do, you will find over 100,000 votes were received 1,0,and -1 days after they were sent out. That means some of those votes Time Traveled. Either the state's data is wrong, or fraud occurred. There is no other explanations and both explanations means they have a completely tainted election that is not able to be verified as valid.
Trump has been a president who has been more personally connected to voters than any president in a long time. It was Biden who had to be hidden from the public in his basement, who only came out for short teleprompter rhetoric, who never held an open press conference, and who told a reporter that voters don't "deserve" to know his position on court packing until after the election is over.
I think SO. So where do we go from here? a recount is the ONLY way to satisfy either side. Recount all six states in question. Democrats should have nothing as all to fear if they really think no fraud took place, no a single thing to worry about. If the fraud issues are resolved and not just swept under the rug, I don't know a single Republican that will still claim stolen election. As it stands now over 70% of voting republicans think the election has been stolen that is 50,000,000 just how are we to "come together" with that hanging over our heads. I am one of those that will fight Biden every day for the next 4 years if I don't get satisfied that this election was not stolen.
Again, I can say all sorts of things. Wanna hear them? You don't. The point is, what can you prove? If the chair of the FEC, a republican appointed by Trump, says it, it means nothing without corroborating evidence.
A Recount? That will only change a few hundred votes where the leads are 10s of Thousands? Sure thing.
So first it was trump will win in a landslide Then it was he will win with PA Then it was count the votes Then stop the count Then a recount will root out fraud Now it is a recount wont work either but Biden is still “illegitimate” Next SCOTUS will get involved and steal the election There is no legitimate evidence of fraud that will change the results of the election and cases are being laughed out of court The only thing illegitimate is trumpism as decided by over 5 million voters The screaming vocal minority were put in their place by those that believe in facts and science over emotions and conspiracy
Incorrect, he has never said or done anything to make a reasonable person believe any of that. Im not virtue signaling, nor is Trump a scumbag. Nor is he virtuous, virtually no one is. Its a fantasy we tell young people to make them feel good about themselves. Its the disney outlook on life that isn't real. Our society is just convinced virtue exists because of virtue signaling. People are obsessed with self interest. Everythign we do benefits us in some manner.
There is plenty of objective eevidence of fraud to justify a recount. Some recounts are already occurring so perhaps it is YOU who has to get over it.
trump can most certainly pay for recounts wherever he wants, it is an option in virtually all sates — I just hope they ask for payment up front and wait for the funds to clear first
Sure, I doubt anyone thinks a candidate doesn't have these options. I don't care what Trump does, either. I'm also not so naive to believe Trump will ever accept any results that don't go his way, so doing recounts is just an annoying reminder of this; I'd rather he just disappear and we get on with things here on World #1. I was commenting on the notion that 70% of Trump voters' feelings are hurt, so we need a recount, to satisfy their feelings. Pretty pathetic; especially coming from those who are fond of calling others snowflakes.