Republicans are wrong. Trump has no ‘right’ to cause this chaos.

Republicans in the Senate seem to be continuing to kiss Trump's ring, even though they know he is a lame duck, and many say they can't say what they know out loud in public, which is why they aren't calling Biden 'President Elect'.

Talk about profiles in cowardice! The founding father's vision of the congress as bicameral, ie., the Senate was originally was as a body of learned men, (appointed, not elected, by the way) being honorable, men of integrity, who would be check on the more unruly House of Representative's, a vision similar to England's House Of Lords and the House of Commons. Well, no such luck, not with this senate.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...fb376c-251d-11eb-8672-c281c7a2c96e_story.html

Trump has no "right" to file frivolous lawsuits in bad faith and demand recounts that have no chance of changing the outcome. He has no "right" to make wild claims of fraud without presenting a shred of credible evidence. He has no "right" to delay and disrupt the most important performative act in our democracy — the peaceful and orderly transfer of power. But he does have a duty to his country, and, like with so many other obligations, Trump is neglecting it to the point of abuse.

The loser congratulates the winner. The winner finds something nice to say about the loser. The president invites the winner and their spouse to the White House for a chat. A transition begins — the handoff not just of power but also of legitimacy.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama did all of this, and more, for Trump in 2016. He refuses to do the same for Biden, breaking a tradition that goes back to 1801 when John Adams handed power and legitimacy to his bitter political enemy, Thomas Jefferson.

The symbolism of a graceful concession is more important than the nuts and bolts of the handoff, especially for a president-elect with Biden's vast experience...Trump is petulantly weakening a divided nation's faith in its hoped-for and unseen foundational ideals — and of all the terrible things this awful man has done to our country, this could be the worst.

 

The sad part is that those GOP Senators are all grown men (mostly, some women), who should stand on their own feet instead of cowering in fear of Trump attacking them on twitter, should they do the right thing and speak out against "stop the steal".

But, we already knew this from the impeachment trial. These same GOP Senators knew full well that Trump tried to extort a foreign government for dirt on Biden, but they enabled Trump by looking the other way. Now, they have to live with the consequences, by being forced into a no-win situation: Speak out against Trump and be blasted on twitter and lose supporters, or, fail to speak out against Trump and be judged harshly by history, because they failed to protect American democracy. It couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch. They are all cowards, who chose personal power over the good for America.

 

I can't help but think the way the repubs (who all know better) are handling this is going to have a favorable impact on the upcoming Senate race in Georgia. I wonder if any of the repubs have thought of this.

 

Republicans in Congress have demonstrated that they are the Party that considers loyalty to partisanship comes before loyalty to the country.

The Grand Old Party is "Grand" no more. Just an old Party.

 

Oh calm yourselves, Republicans' are already removing their masks and awaiting the swamps return to the same 'ol business as usual. None of you have ever grasped (nor tried to) WHY so many people supported Trump. Well, you're on the cusp of getting your precious "normalcy" back, stomach it while you may. Trump may be leaving, but we're not. Good luck marginalizing about half the population.

 

I think Trump was popular because it seems many Americans are also self-centered a holes who are drawn to other self-centered a holes.

 

Well, factually much less than half - closer to 32% of voting age Americans just voted for Trump (225 million voting age Americans).

So it kinda depends on your perspective - if I say only 1/3 of Americans supported Trump or ...
Do I say that 2/3 of Americans didn't support Trump.

 

I'm not sure that that will happen as President Trump has shown it is a difficult thing to do.

 

I would say you should brace yourself for Trump having another four years of death grip on your party, once he declares that he'll run again in 2024. I wish you luck.

 

Yeah, if I were a conservative I wouldn’t be looking favorably on a man who is making my party look as foolish as Trump has.

 

Good post. Interesting, informative, factual. Thank you.

 

Republicans are wrong. Trump has no ‘right’ to cause this chaos.

True. But he does have the privilege of contesting an election by law.

 

Take a close look at how that's turning out.

 

It's got to be all about Dirty Donald, anything to attract attention to him and enlarge his already overblown ego, he's obsessed with himself.

 

Well, Trump, for the first time in history, made no effort to unite this country. Since you are on his side, you don't feel it, you actually approve of it, as Trump trolled the left just about daily. At least Biden will try, but Trump intentionally divided this nation, and all that lurked in the mud sprang forth, took off their hoods, even. Moreover, hardly a day went by where he didn't act like a victim.

Clearly, Trump is unfit for office.

 

If that were all he was doing, you'd have a point. The article is about the chaos Trump is intentionally causing, such as the 20 frivolous lawsuits, lawsuits that judges are throwing out of court as ridiculous, the refusal to conceded, the constant accusing dems of stealing the election though his lawyers have produced no evidence of it, etc.

 

We understand perfectly why people like you support trump. Anyone who has studied history understands what you are doing.

That is why one more election of trump would have resulted in a civil war. Now turn off Newsmax and get a grip on reality.

 

Don't count your chickens....

He'll have to win the primaries, again.

Does the party establishment want this? Somehow, I don't think they want it. I really believe they have had a belly full of this guy, he's toxic and bringing the party down. They will figure out a way to deny him the nomination, such as, if he is convicted of a felony or three ( he is being pursued by SDNY ) they could evict him from the party, and he'd be forced to run third party, which would assure dems winning.

 

We understand why people supported him. Thing is, they believed his con job, he's simply the wrong guy to lead them.

He'll probably be a convicted felon by 2024, and the party establishment will have grounds to evict him from the party, and if he does run, he will have to run third party, which will assure dems retaining the office. I sincerely believe the republican establishment has had a belly full of Trump. So has most of the electorate. I don't see Trump returning to the presidency, ever. He's a sad sack of a man.

That's my prediction.

 

Indeed. Six years of calling the black president an imposter has nothing to with it, right?

 

It is a fever we have seen many times before. We have fought wars to defeat it and we will again if we have to.

 

Whether Trump has a 'right' or not, I dunno. What he doesn't have is an obligation to concede. If the Electors certify Biden with 270 electoral votes, Biden becomes President and Trump becomes not. Until that happens, Trump is President and Biden is not. It really is that simple.

 

Everybody knows that. What we also know is that every president since John Adams has conceded. That makes Trump a tiny little imposter of a man.

If you wanted a woman, you should have voted for Clinton.

 

Thats sexist.

 

Sounds like you described Democrats here.