JOE BIDEN WINS GEORGIA

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  1. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    What makes them "frivolous"?

    Where they in 2000?

    "My" guy got well over 70 million votes so umm yes please try to make it about myself and people on this forum if it makes you feel better.
     
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    Why? There are thousands of Trump haters that don't have a good answer for that.
     
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    Harris is a well known progressive. He intentionally picked her to win over progressive voters. He will once again need their votes in 2018 or lose the House. Neither Sanders or AOC is going to be silenced. The crap is about to hit the Democratic fan.
     
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    In addition to the above, and in reference to “We’ve voted against Trump, the following 2016/2020 County election results is self-explanatory;

    2016

    Trump; 69.8%
    Clinton; 20.1%
    Johnson; 8.3%......Mainly my huge family

    2020

    Trump; 70.2%
    Biden; 25.7%
    Jorgensen; 2.1%

    Thus, evidently, a whole lot of 2016 Libertarians voted against Trump.
     
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    Oh the times they are a changin'.
     
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    Yes, they certainly are. Are you ready for the change? For me, when I know I can't change things I just accept change and get on with my life. I'm no big Trump fan, and I'm just pointing out what is coming when Biden and Harris take office. What should the Biden administration tackle first? What do you think they will tackle first?
     
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    What other options are there except everlasting hatred?

    I don't really know what I expect from Biden, what's important is what do his supporters expect? Biden has always been a mouthpiece for the Party, the designated foot stomper like Lindsey Graham for Pubs. I believe the US will be run by a cabal made up of Obama, Clinton and Soros. Biden really is in advancing stages of dementia and Harris will transition into that leadership cabal. This really has been a coup. Oh I know, crazy conspiracy theorist but I've been paying attention. I hope I'm wrong too.

    Here's hoping trump really has an ace in the hole. There is a reason he will not concede just as Hillary had for telling Biden to never concede under any circumstances. He still has standing and is in the fight till he surrenders.
     
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    Response from Trump’s loyalists; “But, Biden will raise your taxes”

    My response; Why Trump’s predominantly white median/low income earners are so concerned about Biden raising my taxes? Once again, my huge “Libertarian” family, very wealthy, and highly influential, thus, Biden’s tax increase equates to PEANUTS.
     
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    Let’s compare what the official records will be on his last day in office. It will include all of 2020 though so it probably won’t suit your narrative.

    trump will — most likely — have spent in 4 years what Obama did in 8; he will likely leave office with higher deficits and unemployment (neither of which Obama did); he already is the laughing stock of the world; he will hold the most criminal incarnations of any president (Obama had zero); he will have the highest number of struck down EO’s; he will have lost with the largest popular margin in history; he is the first president to have anyone from his own party vote to remove him after he was successfully impeached; I could go on...
     
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    Looks like (original)late is right.
     
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    Good for you but a lot of us live on peanuts.
     
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    Pravda! The Networks are being very cautious.
     
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    Wow!

    9 hours ago.....

    North Dakota/Republican Governor Doug Burgum has ordered a statewide mask mandate.
     
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    No, I do not think that, and never implied anything of the sort, much the VERY OPPOSITE in several posts. You're not paying attention... (although you are at no obligation of paying attention to my posting, but if you want to comment on it, you might want to). I've always said, Biden paid lip service to Sanders because he knew that he needed to keep his followers in the flock, to win the election. Exactly. But now he has won already and he is unlikely to run again in 2024. He has nothing to lose. Have you noticed what he said in the first debate, "The Democratic Party now is me" and "I do not support the Green New Deal"? 2018? The more the progressives stick their heads up, the more seats the Dems lose in the House. In 2018 the House flipped thanks to MODERATES, not to progressives. And the moderate wing of the party is already chastising the progressives for the lost seats in 2020. "The Squad" accounts for 1.7% of the Democratic Caucus. It's only in your imagination that they are all powerful. While thy prevailed in their tiny deep blue districts where a flea-ridden dog would have won if the dog had a D attached to his name, they have no NATIONAL reach. When they tried the national reach they got defeated in the primaries by freaking 8 million popular votes. What a spanking! If AOC runs for national office, she'll lose in the same proportion, or worse.

    "He will need them again in 2018", you say. LOL, when you mock someone you have an interested in keeping YOUR posting coherent. If time travel hasn't been invented yet, no, he won't need them "again in 2018", LOL. Now, will he need them again in 2022? Much the opposite. He needs them to stay quiet or else he may lose the tiny House majority in 2022. Local races have a MUCH different dynamic and like I said, the more progressive they look, the more House seats they lose. That you ignore this, is another demonstration of how ill equipped you are to mock me. Is Biden going to crap on them? Why do you think they are scrambling and trying to organize like crazy to pressure Biden into listening to them? Because they know that he WILL listen to them thanks to agreements already in place? No, it's because they KNOW that he is UNLIKELY to listen to them, now that he has already won. They know that the Biden-Sanders agreement is not worth the ink it was written with, now that they've lost the leverage. If they were confident on being able to pull Biden's strings, they wouldn't be scrambling all over the place like headless chickens.

    Oh, I need to "take my time and think it through" as if I'm some sort of imbecile? LOL. Underestimate me at your own peril. YOU are the one who isn't thinking this through. The DNC engineered Biden's comeback PRECISELY to stop the progressives, and now you think the progressives are taking over... LOL. Oh, and Kamala? Biden picked her because he thought she would give him the best changes at making inroads with suburban women, nationwide, instead of more localized advantages like Val or Tammy or Stacey or Gretchen. Correctly, by the way. He did earn more of that demographic which may very well be why he won. But she is the veep. As long as Biden remains alive and well, she will remain the veep. Newsflash: veeps are a lot less influential than you think. Her role has acquired more importance given Biden's advanced age, but if he remains OK with cognitive decline but no serious dementia, there isn't a lot that she can do, as the veep. Sure, she will be loud like AOC is loud but these people, currently, have more bark than bite.

    Shooting from the hip: stop the projection. You are drinking the Kool-Aid of Trump's campaign, that Biden is a socialist and/or a puppet of the socialists. Newsflash: the campaign is over. Whatever was said to influence the vote, is over. Now the real business of governing starts. And in his very victory speech, Biden talked about collaborating with... the Republicans. Not collaborating with the ultra-progressives. Do you think AOC is happy about Biden reaching out to the other side of the aisle? For her, even the remote idea of collaborating with a Republican is disqualifying. Interesting that her supposed puppet is saying precisely that, huh? Yeah, talk about "thinking it through."

    Biden has ALWAYS been a centrist and a moderate, will govern as such (especially, without the Senate being Democrat, he will need to reach out to Republicans if he wants to get anything done, and it is NOT listening to ultra-progressives that he will be well-received by the Republicans), and Trump's campaign to depict him as a socialist has failed. Move on. Dump the Kool-Aid. It's not good for you. A dose of reality might go a long way to open your eyes.
     
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    I was with ya until the second paragraph Jet. The term "free stuff" is a giveaway. The entire second paragraph may not be indicative of cult worship, but it's a collection of partisan talking points without substance.

    If you want to see cultists, check out a Trump rally.
     
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    Rudy will stick with him.
     
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    I betcha he knows how to spell cognizant. Lol.
     
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    Do you have his quote stating this? I have not heard what you state from Biden.
     
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    I was wrong!

    In the thread; Make your predictions....

    I predicted Biden’s popular vote would surpass Trump’s by 4 to 5%, and said percentages should give Biden the presidency.

    Today, Biden only has a 3.5% lead.

    Thus, once again, I was wrong.

    Whose next?
     
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    Votes are votes. Counting is counting. Registration is registration.
    Delivery does not matter. Every State has a means for mail in ballots. Because not every voter is able to vote on the 1 day set aside to vote.

    I did absentee Ballot in 2012, my one and only time.
    There are at least 2 states that have mail in voting as the only means to vote. And have done so for a decade of more.
     
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    Gotta give ya an extra one for that. +1

    Thank god there are cooler heads among us. You live up to your screen name, and I for one, appreciate your levelheaded posts.
     
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    Maybe it's indicative of cult recognition?

    The left has promised all that and Biden is the chosen representative of the left and has voiced support for all of it. It's one thing to vote for something because it's the lesser of two evils but choosing a greatly flawed partner because you believe you can change them is a recipe for chaos. Know what you're buying and plan on an as is purchase.
     
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    Thank you for correcting me on the date. Yes, meant 2022. As I said in previous post I am no fan of Trump. If I could have voted I would have held my nose and voted for Biden. Let's hope he stays around long enough to keep Harris from becoming the president.
     
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    I'm really not seeing the problems with Harris that others do. I've heard the specific criticisms, well, only two come to mind, and her personal life is none of my business, so the criticism I see is that she was too strict as a prosecutor. That would put her to the right of center politically -- IMO, choosing a career as a prosecutor is not something a far left ideologue would do. She would have sought a position in the legislative branch.

    That said, what is it about Harris, other than baseless claims, that makes her this neo-communist everyone is frightened of? I think she's smart, experienced, well-spoken and qualified. She certainly doesn't scare me. Compared to Trump, she's a calming figure.
     
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    Indeed. While I understood the rationale for picking Harris, I didn't like it. I hope Biden doesn't croak in the next four years, because I definitely don't want a President Harris. Interesting enough, the Dem primary voters didn't want her, either, so it is weird that she is now propped into this position.

    I hope Biden's mind holds with some localized forgetfulness, some senior moments, but no gross dementia. We actually need Biden, now. If there is someone with a tiny opportunity to engage in national reconciliation, he's our guy. It will depend on Mitch, though. If Mitch can for a moment think of the country a bit, instead of only thinking of his own power as Senate Majority Leader and of his party, then maybe he will work to some degree with Biden.

    It's an uphill battle. But only Biden can do it, if it is at least remotely possible. Actually Mitch likes and respects Biden. But with Mitch, liking and respecting someone won't stop him from screwing that person, if it serves Mitch's own interests. That one is a snake. But while he would gladly destroy anybody else, maybe he will hesitate a tiny bit in destroying Biden. I hope so. But if Biden looks too progressive, then any hope of national reconciliation is lost, and I'm sure that Biden is quite aware of that.

    By the way, kudos for not lashing out at my rather harsh response. I apologize if I offended you.
     
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