You voted for Biden ... now be honest

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Why did you vote for Biden

Poll closed Nov 15, 2020.
  1. Biden got my vote due to his character that I shall explain

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  2. Biden got my vote because the Media persuaded me Trump is bad

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    He should give it up because he lost, fair and square. What Biden might do in similar circumstances is irrelevant.
     
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    He was acting at the direction of POTUS.
     
  3. LangleyMan

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    He acted at the direction of POTUS.
     
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    Meh... not so fast, Langley -- I lived every single stinking day of "Vietnam Era" and I sure as hell do not (NOT) remember Lyndon Baines Johnson as being anything other than a dyed-in-the-wool, ultra-liberal, FDR-cultured DEMOCRAT!

    Like a lot of other guys in 1966, I had to keep my 2-S status or be drafted... we didn't even have a 'lottery-spin' that you guys who came along later did.... Unlike the rich kids, I ran out of money even though I worked full time while going to college... so, I joined the military rather than be drafted. Boo-hoo.... :blahblah:

    Was President Lyndon Johnson a corrupt hypocrite on a scale rarely seen even in this country? A resounding, "Yes!" But that doesn't make him anything other than what he was -- a "New Deal Era"-pandering, war-profiteering DEMOCRAT -- who disrupted the lives of millions of young Americans, while sending nearly 60,000 of us to our DEATHS for a totally unnecessary war based on his biggest Vietnam lie of all -- "Gulf of Tonkin"!
     
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  5. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Trump asked only for a favor, why was little Adam Schiff in such a tantrum then?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's the truth about LBJ and his war against Vietnam.

    Fortunately for me, i got drafted in 1962 before Vietnam caught the attention of the public. I was out of the Army for more than a year prior to the LBJ invasion of South Vietnam.
     
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    LBJ was a liberal, but he was challenged by McCarthy and Kennedy. Republicans were "pro-war," especially before 1967.
    I started university when I was 16 and paid my way through to a degree when I was 20 in 1968. I got married when I was 19 in 1966 and paid for my wife, too. (She was a great investment and we're still married today. No kids until 1973, so it was a choice.) I was probably on almost the same track as you.
    I don't think so. I had a relative in the White House who saw JFK every day and stayed on with LBJ until he escalated the Vietnam War. He quit in March 1965. He thought LBJ was an idiot, not a crook.
    "Pandering?" Over what? To whom? There was a lot of poverty in this country that he addressed, although I think he went about it the wrong way. I think LBJ "pandered," if that's the right word, to warmongers like Barry Goldwater.

    BTW, what would you do about this...?

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    Huh?
     
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    Georgia just had 2600
    Michigan had a 6000 flip
    And a 150000 accident
    With 10s of hundreds of dead voters

    I expect you can find them in the news because CNN didnt do a story.
     
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    You just "misjudged" I didn't. How about you? Why should I think you know?
     
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    While I agree with much you said in that post, I'm surprised that you were oblivious to LBJ's pandering for votes by using welfare programs and other initiatives aimed at the poor -- especially poor minorities. Does the "War on Poverty" ring any bells? How about ramming Medicare and Medicaid down our national throat? And although he's and Democrats are credited with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, this, too, was done in a pandering, even, cynical way.

    But, as far as the information on your graph goes... all I can say is that each one of us is free to accept jobs or to reject them. If we don't like the pay and benefits in one job, the door is wide to leave and go get a better one. But, too many people simply look to "Uncle Sugar" to give them what they want instead....

    Korporate Amerika is always seeking ways to cut payroll, cut numbers of employees, and make people 'do more with less'. The art of being a successful employee is make yourself so valuable that they PAY YOU WHAT YOU ARE WORTH!

    upload_2020-11-17_17-1-26.jpeg . "Hypocrite! Thy name is DEMOCRAT!
     
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    Since your messages can never convey racism how about explaining:

    How is it that you think the VP-Elect, Kamala Harris is a Muslim; and

    Why is it you think Muslims are evil for practicing a religion that is little different from Christianity, Mormon, or Judaism?

    Please convey how holding and conveying these opinions does not, in fact, convey racism.
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    About Harris. I do not know that to be a fact about Harris.
    I have no opinion on Muslims practicing their religion. Islam is very different from Christianity and Mormons and Judaism.
     
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    I will leave this stand and call it a misunderstanding.
     
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    That's why I said LBJ went about helping people the wrong way. I went into teaching to help everyday folks, but I helped them by teaching them skills they could use to make money.

    I'm convinced most people just want a chance to earn their way.
    Medicare and Medicaid are popular programs. Why the venom (see above)? Almost half of Medicaid goes to caring for indigents in need of skilled nursing.
    The graph is about workers not getting even close to a proportionate share of the increasing GDP for the past four decades.

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    I don't think yours is a realistic solution for most employees and most jobs.
     
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    Once again, I do agree with much you've said in your post above, and I won't even quibble about the parts I disagree with.

    Because you are an educator, I can only refer to the works of B. F. Skinner and Abraham Maslow to explain my pragmatic viewpoints on human motivation and 'work' behavior. It's a never-ending battle, you see... as old as mankind, with constant variations on the theme of "You have it; I want it; now, what do I have to do to EARN it?"

    At this point, the only (ONLY) example I know of in all the world of a nation that practices 'neo-socialism' successfully is GERMANY. Since World War II, the Germans have managed to put together an economy that is generally fair to ALL segments of its society -- including the indigent, the wealthy, and everyone in-between. Moreover, the Germans do this while maintaining the most successful economy in all the EU (by a LONG shot), supporting a national healthcare system that works better than any other in 'the West', and truly encouraging the potential and mentality of its children with an public education system that is VASTLY better than any we have in the United States outside the realm of private schools.

    Germany successfully learned to walk on three legs: 1. Corporate ownership and management 2. Intelligently-run organized labor 3. Government that has miraculously balanced itself (because its necessary to have political coalitions in order to govern) with the needs of all the German people.

    But, are there 'slackers' in Germany? You bet -- LOTS of them. One I know personally is 40 years old, in perfect health, and in possession of an excellent mind, but who hasn't held any kind of job in seven years. He spends all day playing with his 'smart' phone and his little friends -- all of whom have a huge, endless 'pity-party' about how wrong it is that people live in a world where they are expected to work at all!

    So, it's not perfect... no place is. But we had better be very, VERY careful about the magnitude and speed of adoption with which we inject 'socialism-lite' into the fabric of the United States -- which looms in the near future now that radical Democrats will be taking over more and more of everything in America. If we start fiddling around with independent variables like 'minimum wage' and 'guaranteed annual income', we'd better know exactly what the hell we're doing or we will wreck ourselves... and if by some miracle we don't, the Chinese probably will....
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no clue why you even have this misunderstanding given what you alleged about me has no truth at all to it.
     
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    Kamala Harris has dabbled in a number of different faiths, including Hinduism and "The Church of God". Today she calls herself to be a "Black Baptist"...(?).

    It's puzzling that she markets herself as being "black", but, hey, Democrats also bought the idea of 'Dizzy Lizzy' Warren being an American Indian!

    Maybe it's true that you can fool ALL of a certain kind of people ALL the time.... :hippie:.
     
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    I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of the elderly sex offenders either!
     
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    Other than conveying racism your post had no rational meaning and failed to address anything within the topic.
     
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    You can lie about what you said but, like Trump, you can't unmake what you have said.
     
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    Maslow was a significant contributor to my efforts to motivate students. I often explained Maslow and Bloom's Taxonomy to students and identified how and why my approach and sequencing of information was influenced by Bloom and Maslow.
    I like the German integration of vocational education and their business-labor cooperation in production. As good as it is, the German approach isn't foolproof as evidenced by VW's fraudulent promotion of diesel vehicles.
    Reminds me of a brilliant guy I knew who took care of property (he lived on it free) for a member of the Maytag (think appliances!) family. He was around 35 when that gig ended and was at a loss on what to do for a living. Knowing he had a university degree in mathematics, I suggested he learn how to program computers. Holy Cow! I had the guy programming in assembly language in a couple of weeks. He ended up programming on contracts, living and working on his 55' Chris-Craft. Eventually, he met a French artist, married her, and moved to Provence.
    IMO, the only way socialists will ever control the agenda is if capitalists fail to remedy this...

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    We need to start considering what we do for work in 20 years when quantum computing, AI, and high-speed wireless put a lot of people out of a job.
     
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    I dunno. I decided when I was 9-years-old that none of it made any sense, so I really wonder about belief shoppers.
    Hardly the same thing. Anyway, she ain't white.
     
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    The last posts in this thread had veered over into speculation about what 'religion' Kamala Harris practices, and a couple of those posts were yours. But I'm a "racist" because I simply contributed info I picked up from a bio page on her...?

    You guys on the Left are so thoroughly paranoid about "racism", 24/7, in everything and everyone that doesn't fit your own mold. Have you ever considered the idea that makes you seem a little bit unhinged to the rest of us...?

    Just for the record, I don't CARE if Kamala Harris is a practitioner of a religion or not. She can worship "The Great Tree Lizard" for all I care!

    The idea that she identifies as a "Black Baptist" today is mildly amusing only because she's about the least "black" of any "black" politician I know of in the United States today....

    [​IMG] ."By the way, I prefer live bugs over cash in MY collection plate...." :cynic:
     
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    Many Americans fail to see the degree of interdependence all humanity is living under today. We are already a global society. We have had a global economy since the 1990s at least. We are NOT a separate, isolated nation state. No one is. There is now only one race on this planet--the human race. All of us are subsets of that truth.

    It is much the same for the planet itself. As those familiar with the Gaia concept, the Earth itself is essentially a living organism. It has complex interrelated & interconnected systems that act like a plant or animal's respiratory, circulation, skeletal, endocrine or other systems that keep them alive. If you poison any of these systems in a plant or animal, sickness or death ensues. We are poisoning the atmospheric & hydrologic systems of Earth, & it's already sick from our actions against it. If we continue, it has a good chance of dying altogether. If that happens, everything now living on Earth will die too. We are all dependent on a healthy Earth for our own survival. Humanity has developed to the point we are now a major natural force, with the power to sustain or kill our home planet. We need to become sensitive to our own capabilities & respond in a positive manner so we arrest the damage we're doing, & reverse it. Earth is literally the only chance we have to survive as a species. Continuing our thoughtless & destructive activities is not only universally dangerous, but a truly disappointing epitaph for our own existence.
     

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